Transcript of the May 11, 2010 Virtual Worlds Eduction Roundtable
Topic: How To Teach In SL Without Owning Land
Links of Note: we'll add a pile of new resources from the notecards collected at the meeting. Check this transcript for updates.
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Olivia Hotshot: Hi everyone, and welcome to our weekly Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable meeting.
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Olivia Hotshot: Finally, if you have Mystitool on, or other similar tool, please put it to sleep or detach it for now. -) It tends to lag things.
Olivia Hotshot: I'm Olivia, today's moderator for this group, and hosting today for AJ Brooks. If you've not seen the transcripts Iggy runs, you should check them out - they are a great information asset.
Olivia Hotshot: Why don't we get started they way we usually do, by introducing ourselves. No need to wait, go ahead and type who you are, where you are, and your ties to education into local chat.
Olivia Hotshot: I am Ann Steckel, an educational technology consultant and educator from California State University, Chico.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia is Joe Essid, Dept. of Rhetoric and Communication Studies. I'm the University of Richmond's Writing Center and Writing Across the Curriculum Director. I've taught four courses with SL. I'm part of a design team building an immersive simulation of Poe's House of Usher. This simulation debuted in the 2009-2010 academic year.
ValentineBouquet Garnet: is there voice today?
Grinn Pidgeon: Dr. Barbara Pittman, Cuyahoga Community College, Cleveland, Ohio. should be grading final projects.
Del Hapmouche: John Gustafson, University of Maryland University College faculty
Margaret Michalski: Margare Czart, Research Information Specialist, University of Illinois at Chicago.
Geoff Lumley is Geoff Barker-Read from the University of Leeds, UK.
Olivia Hotshot: NO voice TEXT meeting
Julia Tiraxibar: I am Wendy Keeney-Kennicutt, teaching chemistry at Texas A&M University.
Jesse Fugue: Jesse Robinson, Director of technology for the Linsly School in Wheeling, WV
Jimmie Veeper: Jim Fullerton, educator K-12
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: Rosanna Brown, Lassen Community College Library, Susanville (northeastern), California, rbrown@lassencollege.edu, @RbrownLassen. In world, call me Lo.
Rachelle Munro: Rochell McWhorter, PhD student at Texas A&M University, Lecturer at University of TX at Tyler
ericcgcc Yootz: eric greene adjunct faculty columbia gorge cc - hood river
Sheila Yoshikawa: Sheila Webber, teach at Sheffield University in the UK
Zotarah Shepherd: I am a MA in Education (technology & psychology) student at Sonoma State University in northern California working on a curriculum project: Teaching and Learning Life Foundation Skills in Second Life.
hobbs Constantine: is Heather Dodds, Course Mentor for Natural Sciences, Western Governors University
Stephan Citron: My name is Zsolt Kristof. I teach informatics at the University of Debrecen in Hungary. I am an assistant professor and I like to write my PhD about the teaching-learning methods in a virtual environment.
Kali Pizzaro: Evelyn McElhinney RN (nurse day tomorrow) Lecturer Glasgow Caledonian University
Firery Broome: University of Delaware
ValentineBouquet Garnet: I am with Point Park University in Pittsburgh PA
Lolly Dovgal: Hello, I'm Laura Sederbeg, CSU, Chico. Learning to help facilitate SL into our other technology/curriculum.
Olivia Hotshot: anyone else?
Mimi Muircastle: Mimi/Charlotte wandering educator ; retired M.S. Principal; charter school counselor
Grinn Pidgeon: why is my arm going rogue?
Mick Darmoset: Hi Adjunct at Metropolitan State University College of Management
Olivia Hotshot: last call......
Olivia Hotshot: 31 on the sim for the record
TommyJW Ninetails: Just a heads up - I've got to leave at 3 pm.
Olivia Hotshot: Well first of all welcome to this session i am going to affectionately call- teaching in sl on the cheap.
Logos Sohl: Phd studen researching vws from Ireland
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Grinn, my hair goes Rogue in Reaction Grid :0
Logos Sohl: hehehe
Olivia Hotshot: I want to start off with a question.
Olivia Hotshot: How many of you are currently teaching on a parcel in SL that is owned by your institution?
Kali Pizzaro: me
Julia Tiraxibar: I am
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: me
Logos Sohl: not me
Mick Darmoset: no
Rachelle Munro: me
Jesse Fugue: Nope
Grinn Pidgeon: no
Firery Broome: me
ValentineBouquet Garnet: I wish I was!
Margaret Michalski: no
Del Hapmouche: no
Zotarah Shepherd: no
Stephan Citron: no
Lolly Dovgal: no
Geoff Lumley: I am
Sheila Yoshikawa: me
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: no
Lolly Dovgal: Chico has space, but I don't teach on it.

ericcgcc Yootz: i am
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: folks looking for seats
Olivia Hotshot listens for more replies.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: there are seats oftn to Olivia's left
Olivia Hotshot: empty seat on my left
ericcgcc Yootz: or rather - have taught on our issland
Jimmie Veeper: me
Olivia Hotshot: ok second question
Olivia Hotshot: How many of you work/teach on property that YOU own?
Lolly Dovgal: me
Kali Pizzaro: no me
Julia Tiraxibar: not me
Del Hapmouche: no
Mick Darmoset: me
Jimmie Veeper: me
Stephan Citron: no
Margaret Michalski: no
Jesse Fugue: nope
Olivia Hotshot: you not the institution.....
Rachelle Munro: have prior, not now though
Logos Sohl: i neither teach on a college platform nor my own land. i am a true itinerant.
ericcgcc Yootz: no
Zotarah Shepherd: Yes I own a sim
Jimmie Veeper: oh, no
Logos Sohl: very irish hedge school of me
Mimi Muircastle: I own property for my non profit and plan to do some information giving there
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: no
Olivia Hotshot: and Last - How many of you work/teach on a parcel that is given to you FREE and hosted by an institution?
Jesse Fugue: in SL?
Julia Tiraxibar: I do
Kali Pizzaro: no
Grinn Pidgeon: no
Olivia Hotshot: yes, all of this is about SL Jesse.
ValentineBouquet Garnet: no
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: no
ericcgcc Yootz: no
Jesse Fugue: no
Mick Darmoset: no
Del Hapmouche: no
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: me
Stephan Citron: no but that is my wish
Margaret Michalski: me
hobbs Constantine: yes
Mimi Muircastle: not me but hoping :)
Olivia Hotshot: OK< then lets start off with that.....
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: Is it ok to ask how many are teaching/working in SL?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: we booted my ALT, however, to make room for more stuff
Kathryn Pleides: no
Olivia Hotshot: Lo, we'll get to that
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: ok
Kalyan Horatio: I teach English in SL
Deb Quintessa: I am
Kalyan Horatio: I have 15 students
Kalyan Horatio: I teach them free
Olivia Hotshot: I want to hear now from the people working on FREE parcels to you - but owned by an institution - How did you find the land?
ValentineBouquet Garnet: I want to begin this summer and fall
Julia Tiraxibar: I am involved with Texas A&M and convinced them that I needed my own space.
Margaret Michalski: through other educators

Logos Sohl: no
Olivia Hotshot: Julia and Margaret, can you tell us more?
Olivia Hotshot: If someone has land here on Montclair please speak up.
Logos Sohl: (taht no was for the previous q...)
Margaret Michalski: my supervisor was in SL 2 years longer than I and heard about an opportunity for free land
hobbs Constantine: Land owner approached me with offer
Olivia Hotshot: very cool Hobs
Mimi Muircastle: yes, Hobbs, ubercool for you :)
Julia Tiraxibar: Texas A&M has bought into the idea of SL and bought 2 islands with is now expanded to 3+. I've been involved since the beginning first working with Rachelle here on her space, then expanding.
ValentineBouquet Garnet: how does one find free land?
ValentineBouquet Garnet: for teaching?
Olivia Hotshot: OK, then next group - those of you who are eductional hobos, how do you teach or work here in SL>
Julia Tiraxibar: ,,, to my own corner onthe TAMU site.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: to be honest, Kevin, our estate manager, was eager to have anyone on the campus build there...so a colleague and I did
Olivia Hotshot: Valentine, that is exactly what we are going to talk about.
Jimmie Veeper: Grant funding purchased a sim in TSL.
tjmeister Megadon: Does opensim count? Often plenty of free land in various opensim grids...
Kali Pizzaro: GCu bought an island public and private to teach on
Jimmie Veeper: We're starting a special economic zone.
Olivia Hotshot: We are talking about SL today TJ
Jimmie Veeper: red-headed step child again.
Logos Sohl: I'm teaching business strategy so i showcase locations and kinds of businesses
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I dont think LL offers the free classrooms any longer...too bad
Logos Sohl: But this year was a small scale pilot
tjmeister Megadon: kk
Mick Darmoset: I am pushing for small affordable plots big enough for a classroom
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: correct me if I am wrong on that
Olivia Hotshot: I don't know if that is true or not Iggy. I assume it is.
Logos Sohl: i was offered the use of classroom and its facilities if i wanted hem
Firery Broome: Didn't info islands have some a while back?
Olivia Hotshot: So far from what i am hearing - it is a connection in sl that helped you find free land?
Firery Broome: and I think NMC had some people could use as well. But not sure if that still is true.
Logos Sohl: I bumped into someone who offered me the use of their land (but didnt use it in the end)
Margaret Michalski: yes, if you know people well enough they may offer a free corner as well.
Logos Sohl: Everything in sl is connection and word of mouth
ValentineBouquet Garnet: I think teachers want to have space that is their own to teach on; more security, more reliability
Olivia Hotshot: OK, then lets brainstorm - where could we advise people to look or go or ask for information abou tfree land? For example the SLED list.
Mimi Muircastle: question: if someone offers you land to teach on, where do your students come from?
Geoff Lumley: The island I now own - Education UK - was the site of a free land grant programme back in 2007. Educators were given a small parcel to get started on in exchange for a report after a year
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: you may wish to visit the Campus: Second Life region to see about the classroom program: SLURL is here (omitting a VERY long SLURL)
Olivia Hotshot: yikes
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: ouch
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: sorry
Logos Sohl: hehe
Olivia Hotshot: will leave you to clean that one up on the transcript Iggy.
Kali Pizzaro: Geoff you took the words out of my mouth hehe
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: if I can :)
Lolly Dovgal: What was that?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: location for the campus SL region, with classroom space for free
Olivia Hotshot: Reposting in case it was missed: OK, then lets brainstorm - where could we advise people to look or go or ask for information abou tfree land? For example the SLED list.
Margaret Michalski: EdTech offers free space to teach I know
Kali Pizzaro: in the uk you could join the VWW list and ask there

Olivia Hotshot: Good one Margaret!
Zotarah Shepherd: I am planning to offer classes for educators on my land and will just let the LSED list and Education groups know. I am waiting for IRB permission since it is for my Thesis project.
Kali Pizzaro: or collaborate with a uni
Olivia Hotshot: I periodically see free land offered on the SLED list - as well as people asking for it. Do you all know what the SLED list is?
Sheila Yoshikawa: I think SLED or the virtualworlds@jiscmail.ac.uk, as Kali said, they always (I think) get a response
Kali Pizzaro: thanks Sheila
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: btw, all, the LM posted works, and it notes that free land is still available. Worth a check with LL> I understand it is only for one academic term, however. I guess you can renew.
Olivia Hotshot agrees with @Shelia.
Sheila Yoshikawa: or coming along to meetings like this? I would advise people who are interested to start being a bit visible at meetings, so if they ask, then you know it is someone who knows you have to get to know SL
Kali Pizzaro: @Sheila agree
Mimi Muircastle: excellent point Sheila :)
Olivia Hotshot: other advice?
Sheila Yoshikawa: though in fact anyone can tp onto our island and use the venues if they happen to be free, but they wouldn't have rezzing rights
Kalyan Horatio: I am not sure what you all mean by Free land. Free space where I can teach or free space for which I dont have to pay but the parcel info will show my name?
Mimi Muircastle: Is there a way to gather info about available land and match it with those who are looking for it?
ValentineBouquet Garnet: good idea
Kali Pizzaro: great suggestion Mimi
Olivia Hotshot: Kalyan, we are talking about free space where educators can work. Putting your name on the land is the icing. We want space.
Mimi Muircastle: :) ty
Geoff Lumley: Could be both Kalyan.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Keep in mind, too, that if you have a premium acct or a colleague with one, mainland property is dirt cheap and you can get a 512 m parcel and avoid monthly tier fees
Mick Darmoset: many of the big established sl campuses seem to be ok loaning out classrooms for show term use
Kalyan Horatio: Ok Geoff
Olivia Hotshot: Excellent suggestion Iggy.
Birdie Newcomb: It's very handy to have control of a parcel, but you might manage just with setting group permissions.
Olivia Hotshot: @Mick, i have seen that s well.
Mick Darmoset: we have a theory that one can teach a class on a 512 or 1024 sq m parcel and do not need a full sim
Mimi Muircastle: and there is lots and lots of land for sale right now - @Iggy
Logos Sohl: @Iggy lots of educators want students isolated or secluded from the mainland
ValentineBouquet Garnet: good point Mich
Sheila Yoshikawa: it really depends what you want to do, suppose that is obvious!
Olivia Hotshot: My chico group has been on 1/4th of a sim from the start. we do quite well on a small parcel.
Jesse Fugue: Yes, my students are in high school....I would want them away from the mainland.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yes--I got a 512 for 1500L and it could be a great sandbox for a group, with autoreturn set generously :)
Kalyan Horatio: Management of the parcel I find is very important to thwart griefers when my session is in progress
Mimi Muircastle: thanks to your building ability @Olivia!
Birdie Newcomb: My first resident built an 8-storey structure.
Olivia Hotshot: Jesse, they have to be on the teen grid.
Geoff Lumley: Depends what you want to do Mick. If all you need is a bunch of seats, 1 512 parcel is plenty big enough
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Jesse, good point, but the adult stuff seems to have moved. The trick is to find protected land around your purchase
Kali Pizzaro: we have a private area for our student. However they dont tend to drift in nursing for some reason
Mick Darmoset: Yes Kalyan that is a worry

Sheila Yoshikawa: it is easier now that you can get a lot more low prim stuff that looks good
Kali Pizzaro: might are post grad right enough
Kali Pizzaro: mine
Kalyan Horatio: Yes mick
Lolly Dovgal: Wouldn't it be nice to share facilities, land with other campuses?
Olivia Hotshot: Excellent point Lolly.
Lolly Dovgal: Generic campus
Kalyan Horatio: Great idea Lolly
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Lolly I think it is often just a matter of asking?
Kali Pizzaro: i think some uni would be up for that
Lolly Dovgal: Yes, I do, too.
Sheila Yoshikawa: I do USE other people's areas, sometimes asking but not alway
Kali Pizzaro: we are always looking for folk to collaborate with
Lolly Dovgal: Educators are often willing to share, especially those on cutting edge of technology.
Olivia Hotshot: I find people in ed circles to be very open and embracing of others and helpful to get those started
Kali Pizzaro: its convincing the powers sometimes
ValentineBouquet Garnet: if land is shared, more possibilities for collaboration, sharing of ideas, and student interaction, etc
Mimi Muircastle: great pt. Valentine
Kali Pizzaro: woop woop to collaboration and students mixing
Geoff Lumley: Agreed Lolly. Most of us with whole regions can't find enough staff to use the land. I've got plenty of space free
Mimi Muircastle: yes, Kali!
Logos Sohl: i like the shared land idea. its cheaper and it encourages synergy.
Kali Pizzaro: same here Geoff
Mick Darmoset: but if you schedule a semester in advance you want the media rights and access list in your hands I think
Lolly Dovgal: Hmmmm
Olivia Hotshot: OK going to shift gears a bit.......now that we kind of know we can find land by networking, SLED list, asking larger institutions or friends...... lets talk about teaching tools or aids. Where can educators find good free resources?
Kali Pizzaro: it depends also if there is already a agreement between unis
Kali Pizzaro: uni
Birdie Newcomb: EduNation is one source
Lolly Dovgal: Scheduling locations becomes an issue.
Geoff Lumley: But, speaking from experience, there is danger in relying on a third party to provide access to land. Owning the region gives security
Kali Pizzaro: sometimes you dont know who you have a agreement with
Ignatius Onomatopoeia sighs...not at Xstreets any longer. That darn freebie policy really hurt us.
Kali Pizzaro: yes Geoff
Mick Darmoset: the one missing link for us was a drawing board aka blackboard aka whiteboard
Olivia Hotshot: agree Iggy.
ValentineBouquet Garnet: owning is good, I agree
Olivia Hotshot: Free Teaching Resources anyone?
Logos Sohl: Tools in general: immersion tools jam but I'm not sure about education tools. again, I've been gifted tools. And i collected a bunch at vwbpe.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: There were great tools for free at InfoIsland...I'll see if I have a reasonable SLURL this time
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: Sloodle
Olivia Hotshot: aren't there good resources at Chilbo?
Rachelle Munro: Jeanette @ Wells ...love her weekly tools.jam sessions
Logos Sohl: I did come across and education island with a bunch of education stuff. maybe it was chilbo

tjmeister Megadon: With web on a prim, most web based tools become accessible...
Birdie Newcomb: EduNation has stuff
Olivia Hotshot: Good one Birdie.
ValentineBouquet Garnet: getting the free tools in one thing, but we all need to learn how to use them in our lessons effectively
Kali Pizzaro: it can be easy
Lolly Dovgal: ISTE provides training, I recall.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Avatar named Milosun Czervik gave me a tour back in 2007--lots of good free (or cheap) tools at: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Info%20Island/111/101/33
Logos Sohl: This is why the tools jam is great
Mimi Muircastle: another good pt. Valentine
Olivia Hotshot: Valentine, excellent point - for another convo. =)
Del Hapmouche: Just came across a collection of educational tools that's coming out: http://www.margaperez.com/2010/03/the-collection-of-educational-tools-for-second-life/
Kali Pizzaro: sometimes just changing a line in a script
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: including a file cabinet of lesson plans
Birdie Newcomb: Is that where he is now.
Kali Pizzaro: to make it do what you want
Olivia Hotshot: Thanks Del.
Kali Pizzaro: it helps if you also have great tech behind you
Birdie Newcomb: Or look up the creators: AngryBeth Shortbread, Eloise Pasteur
Julia Tiraxibar: I like International Schools for free stuff
Kali Pizzaro: you sometimes need to come up with the idea but chat to tech and look at what others have done
Olivia Hotshot: Angry Beth has some great stuff
Julia Tiraxibar: Yes, she does.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: if you need free Victorian clothing courtesy of Viv Trafalgar for historical RP or a sim, you can visit our House of Usher Visitor's Center at Richmond: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Richmond/128/128/2
Birdie Newcomb: The mystitool is handy
ValentineBouquet Garnet: these links will all be transcripted, after the meeting, correct???
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: There are a lot of freebies just south of here. Are there any teaching tools in it?
Olivia Hotshot: Yes valentine - if people post them they will be in transcript
Kali Pizzaro: i think i got a host of scripts for educators at iste
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I'm also making our HoU textures available there for free
Kali Pizzaro: or was it education Uk - Geoff?
Mimi Muircastle: cool textures, @Iggy
Geoff Lumley: No Kali, it wasn't
Julia Tiraxibar: I also went to the SL blog and asked for scripting help and got help within the day.
Kali Pizzaro: ok so maybe iste
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: they are not rip offs--I took most of them from photos I took, except for the paintings :)
Olivia Hotshot: Ohhh great resource @Julia
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: did someone post a SLURL for free scripts for educators?
Geoff Lumley: On second thoughts, there were some - notecard givers and takers, that sort of thing
Kali Pizzaro: two mins till i find
Mimi Muircastle: not that I saw @Iggy
Olivia Hotshot: 32 on sim for transcript
Birdie Newcomb: Dudeney Ge has made good stuff.
Kali Pizzaro: i cant find the slurl
Ignatius Onomatopoeia searches mess of an inventory :)
Kali Pizzaro: i will try to find and add
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Kali--please. I'm not coming up with it :(
Kali Pizzaro: cant remember where i got them
Kali Pizzaro: no landmark in the folder
Geoff Lumley: Hey; we've all got one of those Iggy. A messy inventory seems to be a requirement for an educator
Lolly Dovgal: Amen to that
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: LOL we have the same problem, but let me put two links in for the group: two scripting helpers I use
Olivia Hotshot: ok and now it is time....... for the energetic part. (Hoping this does nto flop)
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: you need not be a LSL scripter to use them, thank God
Olivia Hotshot: Ready?
Mimi Muircastle: ready!
Grinn Pidgeon: in-worlds conferences. workshops, and meetings have always offered goodie bags--some have good stuff
Olivia Hotshot: OK folks, we are going to try something new today. Since the topic is teaching without land in SL, lets see if we can create a resource for each other that contains information about freebie resources and teaching locations in SL. I will pick the box up later today and during the week create a giver with the notecard resources for all of you to take as a copy and use on your own land.
Mimi Muircastle: great idea!
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I'll put them in a note card!
ValentineBouquet Garnet: NICE!!!!!!!!!
Rachelle Munro: great idea, Olivia!
Olivia Hotshot: (The box is in the middle of the table.)
Olivia Hotshot: I am now going to do is post the directions on how to do this. Iggy and Kali have both agreed to help, so if you have a question please send it to one of them in IM.
Olivia Hotshot: 1. Click the box to get the notecard suggestion form.
Olivia Hotshot: (go for it!!!)
Olivia Hotshot: It will give you a notecard.
Olivia Hotshot: Everyone ok so far?
Mimi Muircastle: works perfectly!
Olivia Hotshot: 2. Add your information (including LM and what people can find there) to the notecard.
Del Hapmouche: y
Olivia Hotshot: (Take a moment to look through your inventory and find something to recommend...a freebie resource, land, etc.)
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Olivia Hotshot: 3. Rename notecard with the location or resource.
Olivia Hotshot: (for example rename it Eduisland)
Mimi Muircastle: can we finish this after the meeting @Olivia
Olivia Hotshot: 4. Drag notecard from your inventory to the box to submit.
Olivia Hotshot: I will pick the box up later today and during the week create a giver with the notecard resources for all of you to take as a copy and use on your own land.
Olivia Hotshot: will have completed giver here next week for you
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: woot...this is a great idea!
ValentineBouquet Garnet: this will be a great way of sharing and we can pass it along to others too
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Olivia Hotshot smiles like a pig in mud or Pappy =)
ValentineBouquet Garnet: Educators rock!
Mimi Muircastle: brilliant, @Olivia - thank you!
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: hoo whee (/me channels Mr. Enoch for a second)
Olivia Hotshot: if we can get 30 cards in here i will LOVE it! Add more than one if you want.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: good thing we didn't ask him--he's been squatting on abandonned land for 6 weeks :)
Olivia Hotshot: OK gang lets help each other and build a cool resource!
Olivia Hotshot: plenty of time..... so relax and enjoy
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
ValentineBouquet Garnet: When can we get the entire list?
Olivia Hotshot: chuckles.
Olivia Hotshot: I will pick the box up later today and during the week create a giver with the notecard resources for all of you to take as a copy and use on your own land.
ValentineBouquet Garnet: It is amazing, this is Web 2.0 technology in action, user created content!!!
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: 8 suggestions--keep them there cards and letter a-coming!
Olivia Hotshot: Will place the completed project here next week.
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: BRB. Must go check if resource is still there.
Olivia Hotshot: no problem Lo.
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I'll get the LM to the Arcadia Asylum museum, too--lots of her content is still in SL for free--funny stuff to add character to a build
Olivia Hotshot: OK, lets spend a bit more time, and then wrap this up with a final conversation.
Lolly Dovgal: OK, not too hard. I added four landmarks to my suggestion, and one tip.
Olivia Hotshot: 5 more minutes or less do you think?
ValentineBouquet Garnet: need to go.....great to be here today, this is one of the BEST groups in SL for professional development
Olivia Hotshot smiles. Thank you Valentine
Birdie Newcomb: Arcadia Asylum -- it certainly will add "character" =)
Kali Pizzaro: cheers Valentine
ValentineBouquet Garnet: thank you all, I get inspired on Tuesday afternoons here in SL!!!!
Kali Pizzaro: woop
Mimi Muircastle: and you inspired us too, Valentine:)
Olivia Hotshot: i love collaboration.
Kali Pizzaro: So Olivia what about - How to get to see other folk in action in their class to get ideas
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
ValentineBouquet Garnet: Oh, thanks!
Mimi Muircastle: this has been fun, @Olivia!
Olivia Hotshot: Thanks Mimi. I took a risk doing this, but man o man you guys are GREAT!
Mimi Muircastle: I would enjoy that too Kali
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Kali Pizzaro: we should try to invite folk to see each others ideas
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Kali Pizzaro: i would be up for that
Mimi Muircastle: This was awesome, Olivia - esp. giving time after class to do a little homework!
Olivia Hotshot: OK lets wrap up all the submissions.
Lolly Dovgal: These could be a great idea for future events, too.
Olivia Hotshot: The box will stay here until the end of the day.
Lolly Dovgal: I took lots of photos today.
Mimi Muircastle: yes, Lolly
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: we need more resources like this. The problem with freebies on XstreetsL alternatives is that students will see adult-rated stuff when they surf the site :(
Mimi Muircastle: and ours of course are all student proof!
Olivia Hotshot: =)
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: LOL never happen :)
Geoff Lumley: Well guys, my day has ended. See you all again
Olivia Hotshot: OK, i am going to move on, keep working if you need to.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: tc Geoff
Kali Pizzaro: we should keep the box here and just add to it monthly or bimonthly
Logos Sohl: Bye Geoff
Mimi Muircastle: thanks for all your input Geoff
Olivia Hotshot: Bye Geoff.
Birdie Newcomb: I wonder what the new LL marketplace will look like
Geoff Lumley: Cheerio for now
Logos Sohl: Yeah Birdie, sounds interesting
Lolly Dovgal: Kali, yes
Kali Pizzaro: Bye Geoff you going to alt
Olivia Hotshot: OK, so tell me folks, can people teach here and not have land?
Kali Pizzaro: yeah
Lolly Dovgal: SUre.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Birdie...it will be fine I'm sure. But there won't be freebies with that 99L monthly fee to list
Lolly Dovgal: Meet people who have land and ask to borrow it
Mimi Muircastle: sure sounds like it as long as you make positive connections
Kali Pizzaro: or collaborate with a class
Kali Pizzaro: share learning
Lolly Dovgal: I've met folks who have taught me things, and taken me to trainings.
Olivia Hotshot: excellent suggestions
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Olivia..absolutely. You could use ISTE or NMC to orient students and then send them on to do work.
Mimi Muircastle: yes, I like that too Kali
Kali Pizzaro: it might not be the same subject but we can pick up
Lolly Dovgal: Chico, is small, but we have a place to share, as schedules allow.
Olivia Hotshot: so a home base is needed... necessary, but you do nto have to own it.
Kali Pizzaro: or it might be the interactions or discourse that interests others
Mimi Muircastle: and the Chico build is so user friendly and cheerful!
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yeah--imagine using the Ahern Morris WA as home base...my God.
Zotarah Shepherd: People do not have to OWN land in SL but you have to meet someplace, even a sandbox in a pinch.
Lolly Dovgal: Mimi, thanks.
Olivia Hotshot: ahh thanks Mimi
Mimi Muircastle: you are both welcome - it is true!
Olivia Hotshot: Zo, do you have a sandbox you would recommend?
Kali Pizzaro: it makes it easier for me that our uni owns land
Olivia Hotshot: actually lets open that up -= sandbox recommendations?
Kali Pizzaro: o cant comment on others
Olivia Hotshot: my IBM fav is gone now.
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Zotarah Shepherd: Actually there are some private ones but I do not have a current list.
Mimi Muircastle: Oregon Island has one that is open
Olivia Hotshot: Mimi - do you have a LM?
Mimi Muircastle: I will find it in a sec :)
Olivia Hotshot: Cool, please add it to the box?

Zotarah Shepherd: If I am not using my sim for a class, you can ask me to use some space on Ralanora.
Jesse Fugue: Ok, class is done. I can focus here finally.
Mimi Muircastle: Oregon Community Colleges (85,92,38)
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I'd actually find abandoned land, be respectful, and not tell anyone...lots of owners leave rezzing on when they quite their land
Olivia Hotshot: Zo, could you add that? (with the aside?)
Julia Tiraxibar: Texas A&M on 12th Man Island has a sandbox - it's pretty high up, but you can get there by clicking on one of the directories set around the land.
Zotarah Shepherd: Sure
Ignatius Onomatopoeia looks around for LL employees and grins
Sparky Dionysus: How do you use whiteboards ?
Olivia Hotshot: Julia, a LM ?
Zotarah Shepherd: I have to run off to class soon so I will do that later
Mimi Muircastle: they are always watching you @Iggy
Kali Pizzaro: what a fab meeting - woke me up
Olivia Hotshot: Thanks Zo.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia dons his tin foil cap
Kali Pizzaro: come see us in GCU if you wish
Kali Pizzaro: next semester
Birdie Newcomb: I've run across LL land sandbox, but not lately.
Mimi Muircastle: me too and I got to eat my lunch while participating!
Zotarah Shepherd: Discussion here is always inspiring and encouraging.
Olivia Hotshot: So to summarize, there are MANY opportunities and resources in the ED community IF you reach out and ask.
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Kali Pizzaro: yep reach out your hand lalalalalalalala
Mimi Muircastle: absolutely!
Kali Pizzaro: singing lean on me
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: LL has an educator's sandox at: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Campus/146/100/2
Kali Pizzaro: alallalala
Lolly Dovgal: Yay!
Zotarah Shepherd: Public sandboxes used to be griefer havens but I have not heard of any recently.
Lolly Dovgal: Good meeting today.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yes..thanks Olivia!
Olivia Hotshot: Iggy could you add that to a card?
Kali Pizzaro: woop woop Olivia
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: what is on next week?
Del Hapmouche: This was a great idea.
Olivia Hotshot: Please take the time to add a card?
Mimi Muircastle: great meeting and GREAT facilitating by Olivia!
Kali Pizzaro: reading meeting
Kali Pizzaro: with the authors
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: hosted by our own Kali!
Maximum Goldshark: -cheers Olivia!-
Kali Pizzaro: Hobbs the moderator
ericcgcc Yootz: @ Oli great session
Kali Pizzaro: me as back up
Suggestion Box whispers: Thank you for the suggestion! We appreciate your opinion.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I mean Hobbs! Yay!
Zotarah Shepherd: I once presented a class on the Elf Circle sandbox
Margaret Michalski: thanks olivia
Ignatius Onomatopoeia needs to check VWER wiki more often
Zotarah Shepherd: Yay Hobbs
Kali Pizzaro: the paper is on Fb
Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks Olivia