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Transcript of Second Life Education Roundtable: Nov. 17, 2009

Topic: Future Topics + Special Announcement

Photos: by Olivia Hotshot. Visit Olivia Hotshot's SLER group and VWER group at Flickr.

AJ Brooks: Hi everyone, and welcome to this weeks SL Education Roundtable.

Zotarah Shepherd: Come on down Hobbs

Sheila Yoshikawa: Hi Geoff, Olivia

AJ Brooks: Just for today, I'll be making the usual announcements and my special announcement, using both voice and text chat.

AJ Brooks: If you cannot get your voice chat working, please contact Margaret Michalski by private IM for assistance.

AJ Brooks: Our meetings are made possible by the Office of Information Technology at Montclair State University. We meet here each week at 2:30pm SLT for an hour.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: there's an open seat to either side of Sheila

AJ Brooks: The SL Education Roundtable is a forum to educate and inform the community about issues that are important and relevant to education.

AJ Brooks: The views and opinions of any of our special guests or visitors do not necessarily represent those who volunteer or organize these meetings,

AJ Brooks: or of the College of Humanities and Social Sciences, Office of Information Technology , or Montclair State University.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: here goes

AJ Brooks: Our meetings are roundtable style, so those in the theater seats please come down and join us at the table. Our magic expanding table will always have an empty seat, located closest to the ramp.

Zotarah Shepherd: weeee

Virtuola Scientist: Schweet!

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: that's it

AJ Brooks: Our topic/theme today is Future Meetings - Topics and Guests

AJ Brooks: This is a public meeting, so we do keep a transcript of what is said in local chat. For a copy of transcripts, please visit http://www.virtualworldsedu.info/slroundtable/

AJ Brooks: Special thanks to our resident scribe, Iggy Onomatopoeia, for taking care of this. If you've not seen the transcripts, you should check them out - they are a great information asset.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia bows in AJ's direction

Ignatius Onomatopoeia ducks

Esparanza Freese: that was me

AJ Brooks: Information on FUTURE MEETINGS is available from the notecard giver on the West wall of the Amphitheater. We have an amazing lineup of meeting for you, with topics set (subject to change) between now and the beginning of January.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: good--glad it helped, Esparanza

Olivia Hotshot: Empty Seat by Iggy on the left by the ramp.

AJ Brooks: The SL Education Roundtable meeting happens each week and we are looking to develop a community of educators from around the world with a variety of thoughts, needs, and ideas.

AJ Brooks: Finally, if you have Mystitool on, or other similar tool, please put it to sleep or detach it for now. :-) It tends to lag things.

Kali Pizzaro: oohhh that is me told

AJ Brooks: As a hint, it is better to have "local chat" open for these meetings, it will help you follow along better.

AJ Brooks: You can find local chat by clicking COMMUNICATE in the bottom navigation bar and you'll find LOCAL CHAT as one of the tabs at the bottom of the window

AJ Brooks: I'd also like to remind folks to come on down and join us around the table, there's always an open seat closest to the ramp.

AJ Brooks: Why don't we get started they way we usually do, by introducing ourselves. No need to wait, go ahead and type who you are, where you are, and your ties to education into local chat.

LoCE99C8 Morpork: Rosanna Brown, Lassen Community College Library, Susanville (northeastern), California, @RbrownLassen. In world, call me Lo.

AJ Brooks: My name is AJ Kelton and I'm the founder and chief moderator for the SLER.

hobbs Constantine: Heather Dodds, Western Governors University, Science Education Programs, Community Facilitator, I make people happy to become science teachers.

AJ Brooks: I am the Director of Emerging Instructional Technology For the College of Humanities and Social Sciences at Montclair State University in Northern Neew Jersey, just outside of NYC.

Geoff Lumley is Geoff Barker-Read from the University of Leeds, UK. I'm Head of the Academic Quality and Standards Team

Ignatius Onomatopoeia is Joe Essid, Dept. of Rhetoric and Communication Studies. I'm the University of Richmond's Writing Center and Writing Across the Curriculum Director. I'm now teaching my fourth class with SL. I'm part of a design team building an immersive simulation of Poe's House of Usher, to launch in Spring 2010.

Grinn Pidgeon: Dr. Barbara Pittman, Cuyahoga Community College, Cleveland, Ohio. Faculty Development/Instructional technology/English teacher

Zotarah Shepherd: I am a MA in Education (technology and psychology) student at Sonoma State University in northern California working an a curriculum project: Teaching and Learning Life-Skills in Second Life. I am working on an Immersive Interactive Educational build about Life-skills on an educational sim called Ralanora.

Margaret Michalski: Margaret Czart, Research Information Specialist, University of Illinois at Chicago

Firery Broome: University of Delaware

Ahlan Oh: Alan Epstein, Watertown, MA, USA; K-12 Educator, specializing in Robotics

Olivia Hotshot: Ann Steckel. California State University, Chico - techie & educator

Sheila Yoshikawa: is Sheila Webber, University of Sheffield Department of Information Studies UK

Viv Trafalgar: Rezzable and University of the Arts

Hattie Haystack: Gail Hanson Brenner, University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire, Clinical Nursing Instructor

Noir Nagy: Steve Stone /Noir Nagy, Wake Technical Community College Raleigh NC

Lynn Miles: Lynn Boyce, university of science and arts of Oklahoma

Esparanza Freese: Kansas State University adjunct eLeanring faculty teaching in SL, living in Florida

Romane Levee: Romane Levee, retired faculty at Georgia Tech, School of Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering. Organizer of the Society for Green Science and Technology, and a SL symposium, Advances in Green Science and Technology.

AgileBill Firehawk: AgileBill Krebs - North Carolina USA - teaching adults in all worlds

PD Alchemi: Paul Rudman, researcher at University of Leicester, UK; creating and evaluating a virtual genetics lab; www.le.ac.uk/swift

Kali Pizzaro: Evelyn McElhinney Glasgow Caledonian

Macdara Saxondale: Dublin City University, Ireland

Virtuola Scientist: I'm Keysha Gamor, Ph.D. I am on the Instructional Capabilities Team at the Advanced Distributed Learning Initiative in Alexandria, VA. www.adlnet.gov

Lyr Lobo: Lyr Lobo (Cynthia Calongne), Colorado Technical University, teaching 16th university class in SL, simulation designer, Computer Science and Emerging Media doctoral program

Kathryn Pleides: Kathryn Pleides is Kathryn Frech, a high school librarian

Angelia Halsey: Linda Gilmore DeKalb Technical College, Atlanta G A psychology instructor

AJ Brooks: anyone else

Mimi Muircastle: Mimi/Charlotte Wildlife Refuge environmental educator - charter school counselor

AJ Brooks: there are empty seats closest to the ramp

AJ Brooks: anyone else?

AJ Brooks: going once?

AJ Brooks: twice

AJ Brooks: ok

Romane Levee: MY RL name is Dan Tedder

Olivia Hotshot: Empty seats by Iggy.

AJ Brooks: three aprts today

AJ Brooks: 1st - special announcement

Zotarah Shepherd: Some in the stands might not be in chat distance to see all of our text up there.

AJ Brooks: 2nd - talking about our holiday party/meeting

AJ Brooks: finally - 1/2 meeting - topics and guests

Firery Broome: yes

Zotarah Shepherd: You are closer to them AJ

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I'll try and IM them

Zotarah Shepherd: hehe true

Firery Broome: I can see everyones name

Lyr Lobo grins

Viv Trafalgar: TY Virtuola

Lyr Lobo: he needs a lure *winks*

Firery Broome: yes

Zotarah Shepherd: Ok good

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: test for viv--in range?

Viv Trafalgar: all clear Iggy

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: cool

AJ Brooks: Before we start our meeting today, I have an important announcement to make.


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AJ Brooks: In March of 2008 the idea was born for a weekly roundtable meeting focused on a specific topic each week. The idea was to bring a bit of democracy to the process of discussing education in this new and adventurous world we'd all found ourselves in.

AJ Brooks: The group was called the SL Education Roundtable and the idea was for all of us to, quite literally, sit around a round table and talk with each other.

AJ Brooks: Over time the meeting group grew to 40 or more attending each week, with nearly 400 members in our Second Life (c) in-world group and over 400 members in our Facebook group.

AJ Brooks: Through the efforts of both a handful of dedicated volunteers, as well as a broad and diverse group of people participating on a regular basis, the group has seen a fair amount of success.

AJ Brooks: SLER was never meant to be a bully pulpit from which controversial ideas or political dramas were fostered.

AJ Brooks: Our role has been to create an environment within which many thoughts and ideas can be talked about and shared, without anyone feeling like theirs were bad or wrong or unwelcome.

AJ Brooks: In many ways, this group has become somewhat of a news media outlet, where topical ideas are raised and discussed without the gloss of one side versus the others.

AJ Brooks: This is not to say our conversations cannot get heated, or interesting, but the organization itself does not take sides, it just facilitates conversation.

AJ Brooks: Since that day nearly two years ago, the landscape has changed. Technology has changed. Virtual worlds have changed. Second Life has changed. And now it is time for our organization to also change.

AJ Brooks: In order to acknowledge that there are many virtual worlds out there to be talked about, and proactively moving into compliance with the Linden Lab restriction of the use of the "SL" in any name, effective January 6th, this group will be called

AJ Brooks: The Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable.

AJ Brooks: In addition, effective immediately, Our scope will broaden beyond the weekly meetings every Tuesday in Second Life, at Montclair State University's virtual campus.

Viv Trafalgar whistles and claps loudly

AJ Brooks: We will continue to hold our Tuesday weekly meeting in Second Life.

AJ Brooks: We will also be holding additional meetings on other days in other virtual worlds, including one tomorrow, Wednesday November 18th at 3:00pm Eastern Time, in Rezzable's simulation, Heritage Key.

AJ Brooks: In the future we will also be meeting in Metaplace, Reaction grid, as well as other virtual world grids.

AJ Brooks: A new Second Life group, Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable (VWER), has already been created and, as of today, will begin to accept membership.

AJ Brooks: Although we will leave the original SLER group open, effective today, no new members will be allowed to join this group.

AJ Brooks: There are also Flickr and Koinup groups making use of the new name, a Facebook group, and a Twitter account. We feel the time between today and January 6th will allow all of those interested to make this important and exciting transition with us.

AJ Brooks: Great thanks to all those who support The Roundtable efforts and activities. We're looking forward to even better programming for our regular meetings as well as expanding our virtual worlds vocabulary.

AJ Brooks: Does anyone have any questions?

Grinn Pidgeon: Where can we easily find instructions to get into those other VWs? Are they all Mac friendly?

Zotarah Shepherd: So we should leave SLER and join VWER?

Olivia Hotshot claps

Noir Nagy: will you have a list of other worlds?

Olivia Hotshot: All are Mac friendly.

Ahlan Oh: Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable doesn't show up in Group search. How does one join?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: no Mac, no Iggy :D

Mimi Muircastle: same question :)

Olivia Hotshot: Email? Or notices?

Ahlan Oh: (it would be very cool to have a multi-virtual world roundtable simultaneously!)

Kathryn Pleides: same again

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Iggyo Heritage is my avatar at Heritage Key, and he'll be on that grid tomorow where my class is doing work.

Zotarah Shepherd: Different topics at each meeting?

Zotarah Shepherd: SL and HK?

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Zo--tomorrow is just a peek at it

Zotarah Shepherd: ok Thanks

Zotarah Shepherd: Well I have 25 groups so I have to leave one anyway. hehe

Lyr Lobo smiles

Lyr Lobo: pardon me... class

Olivia Hotshot: Currently we have Heritage Key, Reaction, & Metaplace.

Zotarah Shepherd: Good

Kali Pizzaro: indeed

Mimi Muircastle: I am interested in the Metaplace mtgs. when will they begin?

Olivia Hotshot: 34 People in the sim at the moment.

Kali Pizzaro: yep

Virtuola Scientist: I agree

AgileBill Firehawk: and thank you for your work - I know this was hard to organize the change

Kali Pizzaro: great

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Mimi--I have a world there in Metaplace...I'll see if Cuppycake can host us

Mimi Muircastle: I have one too :)

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Ignatius Onomatopoeia keeps eggs in other baskets

Viv Trafalgar does also

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: even if my eggs are rather cracked :)

Ahlan Oh: it's like a virtual galactic expansion!

Olivia Hotshot: We are here today to discuss future meetings and guest speakers - once that list gets formed then the meeting places will determined.

LittleToe Bartlett: :)

Ignatius Onomatopoeia ducks again--I started that dustup

Mimi Muircastle: thanks for the update, Olivia :)

Olivia Hotshot: Welcome Mimi.

Mimi Muircastle: ty

Ahlan Oh: excellent!

Mimi Muircastle: as we talk about the future mtgs. and speakers, will they be assigned to a particular world?

Kali Pizzaro: i can feel my 2nd, 3rd, 4th life being born. who am i, where am i hehe

Esparanza Freese: I have land in Avatar Hangout

Mimi Muircastle: we are going to need an avie cross-reference list to keep track of each other :)

Noir Nagy: Is it just me or i the sound cutting in and out?

Olivia Hotshot: Feb the first meeting will be held on Reaction Grid.

Kali Pizzaro: good point

Zotarah Shepherd: Yes Mimi

Olivia Hotshot: That is the objective.

Mimi Muircastle: is there sound???

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I can take it!

Olivia Hotshot: Yes, sound

Mimi Muircastle: nice to know now :)

Virtuola Scientist: Oooo love the sound of poxes!

Virtuola Scientist: hehehee

Kali Pizzaro: yep

Grinn Pidgeon: fine here

Ahlan Oh: loud and cle.....

Jarrad Voom: i hear fine

Esparanza Freese: yes, good sound

PD Alchemi: fine

Olivia Hotshot: I am Olivia Hotshot on all grids - no problem there.

Zotarah Shepherd: I hear you fine in Voice AJ

cyber Placebo: yes

Ahlan Oh: .... ar!

LoCE99C8 Morpork: ok from here

Romane Levee: loud and clear.

Olivia Hotshot: Good sound.

Bungy Bingyi: no problem

Ana Hinchcliffe: yes

Noir Nagy: must be me then.

Kali Pizzaro: ah good Olivia

Kali Pizzaro: woooow

Virtuola Scientist: Excellent!

Kali Pizzaro: woop woop

Kali Pizzaro: Go Iggy

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: it can be done--over holiday break!

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: LOL

Kali Pizzaro: cbt therapy is available

Kali Pizzaro: Iggy

Esparanza Freese: I can offer my land in Avatar Hangout for a meeting

Jarrad Voom: Heritage Key and Rezzable are the same thing?

Esparanza Freese: its another gird much like SL

Olivia Hotshot: Is it a place where classes can be held?

Olivia Hotshot: Open Sim is the platform

Jarrad Voom: Okay thanks

Esparanza Freese: avatar hangout is a spinoff of SL

Esparanza Freese: no

LittleToe Bartlett: Rezzable also has an entertainment grid, unrelated

Esparanza Freese: yes

Olivia Hotshot: one sec

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: hold on

Olivia Hotshot: rats - on desk at home.

Noir Nagy: I would love a list of the other virtual worlds so I can go look at them.

Kali Pizzaro: nice and catchy

Olivia Hotshot: Noir - Heritage Key, Reaction and Metaplace are the ones to go to now.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: glad you have it! My dates end in December :(

Virtuola Scientist: Yay!

Virtuola Scientist: Need some party duds! Anybody got free gear?

Olivia Hotshot: gotcha AJ

AgileBill Firehawk: lol

Kali Pizzaro: woop woop

Kali Pizzaro: jigging

Zotarah Shepherd: Will there be dancing and a DJ?

Esparanza Freese: I know some great SL DJs

Zotarah Shepherd: Sure hehe

AgileBill Firehawk: :-)

Jarrad Voom: I will be dancing

Zotarah Shepherd: Me too Esparanza

Esparanza Freese: i will help

Sheila Yoshikawa: what was the date again?

Katya Anatine: I can help

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I'll help

Zotarah Shepherd: Me of course

Romane Levee: I will be out of town.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: <--dancing fool

Kali Pizzaro: may not be here

Sheila Yoshikawa: (i'll be on holiday too, so sorry, can't this time)

Noir Nagy: I have a doc appt. that afternoon.

LittleToe Bartlett: :)

Noir Nagy: I will try to help build though.

LoCE99C8 Morpork: Solstice?

Esparanza Freese: I have lots of party foods

Kali Pizzaro: who is behind the avatar

Kali Pizzaro: ;-)

Olivia Hotshot: AJ ready?

Esparanza Freese: nope

Jarrad Voom: world or worlds?

Grinn Pidgeon: PG?

Noir Nagy: center for virtual worlds education?

Kali Pizzaro: aj they could just join from your profile

Kali Pizzaro: i just did

Grinn Pidgeon: Mature?

Zotarah Shepherd: It took my group a few hours to show up

Voice not available at your current location

Zotarah Shepherd: Will check later

AJ Brooks: ok - so we want to get an idea of what you folks would like to see for guests and topics

AJ Brooks: for our SL meeting for the first few months of the year

AJ Brooks: lest start with topics

AJ Brooks: anyone have any topics they'd like to see talked about

Esparanza Freese: I attended a mini conference sponsored by the SL Bar Association this past weekend and it was fantastic! I asked one of the presenters,

Legal Writer, if he would speak to our group. In RL, Legal Writer is Stephen Wu, a practicing California attorney. He is Chair of the SL Bar Association and Chair-Elect of the American Bar Association Section of Science and Technology Law, and a member of its Virtual Worlds and Multiuser Online Games Committee. See his website at www.ckwlaw.com.

Zotarah Shepherd: Thank you for the invite Olivia

Noir Nagy: I would like to see guests who can help me convince my school to invest more time in the VR platform education.

AJ Brooks: it would need to be something that we could talk about for an hour or so

AJ Brooks: ok - so we have legal issues in virtual worlds as one topic idea

Zotarah Shepherd: Yay I am a "Member" hehe.

Mimi Muircastle: ty olivia - must drop a group first :)

AJ Brooks: noir, how could we couch that idea as a meeting theme?

Noir Nagy: sounds good to me.

AJ Brooks: what sounds good to you? LOL - i'm confused

Noir Nagy: It is amazing how much resistance there is to saving money.

AJ Brooks: how could we take your idea and make it into a meeting topic

Olivia Hotshot: Did i get everyone at the table?

Zotarah Shepherd: My class on Education is SL at SSU was cancelled due to only 2 people registering.

AJ Brooks: anyone else can chime in also - Noir said "Noir Nagy: I would like to see gueasts wh ocan help me convince my school to invest more time in the VR platform education."

AJ Brooks: so how do we make that a meeting topic?

Grinn Pidgeon: VWing in an era of budget cuts

AJ Brooks: broad - short - to the point

Angelia Halsey: Olivia get everyone for what?

Noir Nagy: oh, I misunderstood. I thought you meant you would have speakers and discussion on teh topic in one meeting.

AJ Brooks: Virtual Worlds in the era of budget cuts?

Grinn Pidgeon: yes

Zotarah Shepherd: So finding ways to bring new teachers into SL would be great.

Viv Trafalgar: Virtual Worlds in the era of Swine Flu

AJ Brooks: Noir - does that cover your idea?

Olivia Hotshot: I sent out group invitations Angelia.

Noir Nagy: it is a good start.

Angelia Halsey: did not receive group invite

Zotarah Shepherd: SL would help school budgets and students home sick with flu.

Noir Nagy: Virtual worlds, not just games, but serious education.....

Noir Nagy: not just games

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Olivia Hotshot: Sent Angelia.

Bungy Bingyi: So is Heritage key - the one at heritage-key.com?

AJ Brooks: Using virtual worlds to deal with disasters

AJ Brooks: not jsut flu - we could cover floods

AJ Brooks: hurricanes

Angelia Halsey: ty Olivia

Mimi Muircastle: just need electricity :)

Zotarah Shepherd: Yes Noir but hard to convince teachers and admins.

Olivia Hotshot: http://virtuallyolivia.blogspot.com/2009/11/heritage-key-download-information.html

Olivia Hotshot: Welcome.

Olivia Hotshot: I posted the Heritage Key download information - but we still need the URL for the meeting login.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I'd love a session on visual literacy and How SL encouraged that---sorry for the lag but I had an IM from a student

Zotarah Shepherd: I am glad we have slow growth in SL Education so we have a chance to develop the culture, but now I would like to see more so it is easier for the rest of us to be taken more seriously.

AJ Brooks: visual literacy

AJ Brooks: interesting

AJ Brooks: what other ideas

Zotarah Shepherd: Yes Iggy

Kali Pizzaro: Ah Iggy building on from what we were talking about last week

AJ Brooks: we need your ideas, or else we'll just make crap up! LOL

Ignatius Onomatopoeia nods at Kali--exactly

Kali Pizzaro: interesting

Olivia Hotshot: shush AJ and quit telling the secrets.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: literacy in 3D

Kali Pizzaro: ha

Mimi Muircastle: maybe some comparisons between virtual worlds and how education is faciitated in each one?

Sheila Yoshikawa: Convincing STUDENTS of the value of using virtual worlds - that it is not "silly" but in future might be an employability skills (be be comfortable in a VW) (I mean, where that IS the case, don't mean "fooling students")

Macdara Saxondale: does SL enhance the learning experience

Noir Nagy: spelling literacy with 3Ds?

Kali Pizzaro: haha

Zotarah Shepherd: I keep thinking about how we are not preparing students for the Technolgy of their future.

Jarrad Voom: tools for teaching in vw

Sheila Yoshikawa: so - conversations that work with students etc

Angelia Halsey: ways to use SL as office hours?

Sheila Yoshikawa: I mean, even if the pedagogic reasons are clear and sound, students sometimes need convincing

Zotarah Shepherd: There are more peer reviewed articles now but not much research in VWs.

Noir Nagy: I have been working with professional schools, like training prison guards and firefighters and Police officers.. There has to be a series of topics there as well.

Zotarah Shepherd: Yes Noir

Kali Pizzaro: bridging the gap using VWs communication tools to give feedback to students

Kali Pizzaro: free

Sheila Yoshikawa: SL as an environment to stimulate reflection - ways of doing that

Romane Levee: Suggested topics: (1) Science and National Energy Policy, (2) Strategies to Reduce the Need for Crude Oil Imports into North America, (3) Solving Global Problems Efficiently using Virtual Reality.

Olivia Hotshot: Would like us to build a skill list that we recommend for faculty to have as well as students to be successful.

Romane Levee: Three topics for your consideration.

Mimi Muircastle: yes Olivia - great idea:)

Angelia Halsey: yes Olivia

Olivia Hotshot: Also, can we get the Case Studies group back?

Romane Levee: Touch typing at the top of the skill list.

Olivia Hotshot: touch typing?

Olivia Hotshot: hehe

Noir Nagy: That lets me out.

Mimi Muircastle: I am open to keeping the Case studies going again :)

AJ Brooks: how about specific guests

Zotarah Shepherd: I would like to see one of the "Obama Tech Edu 18" do a presentation here.

Sheila Yoshikawa: Scanning back - some vocational areas were mentioned - could be scope for focusing on a number of different vocational groups

AJ Brooks: does anyone have names of people in SL they'd like to see speak at our special first of the month meetings?

Olivia Hotshot: Ohh Zotarah that is a good idea.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: can we get Tom Bukowski back now that I'm reading his book??

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: he did say he'd return

AJ Brooks: I'm love to have tom back at some point, he was an awesome guest

AJ Brooks: and I'd love to have Barry as a guest, he was the guy who attended the ISTE meeting

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: awesome book too--Coming of Age in Second Life

AJ Brooks: I'll work on that right away, but it would be for February and the report will be long done by then

Mimi Muircastle: how about Raph Koster!

Zotarah Shepherd: I would like to slao see a presentation on "Play in VWs in education". How we can make better use of VW tools to make learning more fun.

AJ Brooks: we've tried to get him, he's rather elusive

Katya Anatine: Using SL as the context for learning an qualitative research methoology ould b interesting

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Mimi--we are tryng and trying :D

AJ Brooks: but we'll keep trying

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: LOL

Mimi Muircastle: whose elusive, Raph?

Noir Nagy: for vocational ed, people can tour some ot the areas I set up in Sl

AJ Brooks: jsut blurt out your ideas

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: maybe once we get to Metaplace, Raph will come over here

AJ Brooks: the program committee will be going through the transcript

Mimi Muircastle: I will gladly talk to Raph - we twitter :)

AJ Brooks: we don't usually do tours at these meetings

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: yay, Mimi!

Jarrad Voom: sim visitations

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: please do

Noir Nagy: corporate training, customer service and harassment and etc education can be one here.

Olivia Hotshot: The tours really should be done after the meeting is over.

Mimi Muircastle: I will work on Metaplace and us !

AJ Brooks: a number of other orgs do those, like NMC and ISTE

Virtuola Scientist: Sorry--got interrupted

AJ Brooks: I think our appeal is our meeting structure and location - plus, peopel get confused where to meet sometimes

Virtuola Scientist: I'd like to see something on SL and diversity

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AJ Brooks: say more about that Virtuola

Noir Nagy: then what about adding media to the meetings? a 5 or 10 minutes video capture of SL educational sims?

Sheila Yoshikawa: ah - Bluewave Ogee - especially when the Texas initiative has been running a few months - as a special guest

Olivia Hotshot: I would like to see something about publishing books in SL.

Kali Pizzaro: go Olivia

Zotarah Shepherd: It would be nice to have a LM prim here where members can add LMs to great examples of educational places.

Romane Levee: I would like to see something about publishing books in SL also.

AJ Brooks: adding a video stream is an excellent idea

Virtuola Scientist: Doh! Interrupted again! Sorry, I have to shove off. I'll check the the links and see where I can add some ideas.

Sheila Yoshikawa: Bring a Book ;-))

Viv Trafalgar: Arthur Conan Doyle does some great lectures on book publishing

hobbs Constantine: Possible guest (sorry for the late post, had to find him) Professor Mayer-Schönberger on the value of forgetting in the digital world

Romane Levee: I would like to see something about how to record a video stream and put it on the web at a reasonable cost.

Romane Levee: Are there students willing to record video streams?

Noir Nagy: $60 or less with snapxxx

Kali Pizzaro: MM Hobbs interesting

Zotarah Shepherd: If we have a video stream to a website then maybe we could have a all worlds meeting.

Olivia Hotshot: did Kali tell me to go?

Romane Levee: OK, so for how much time, Noir?

Kali Pizzaro: haha no

Olivia Hotshot: hehe

Kali Pizzaro: cheeky

AJ Brooks: Folks - last call on ideas

Katya Anatine: classes/events that are simulcast F2F & VR would be an interesting talk. What needs to be considered, etc.

Romane Levee: I would like to record sessions, about 4 hrs per session. Im getting cost estimates around $1000 or $250/hr.

Olivia Hotshot: QUESTION: How many people plan on going to Heritage Key tomorrow?

AJ Brooks: our meeting is to end shortly

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Ron Glass will be in DA HOUSE at HK

Zotarah Shepherd: I will try Olivia

Firery Broome: I have to work an event

Noir Nagy: that is the recording tool. Sorry I thought you meant you wanted to be able to record SL mvies. There is a man from Pembroke

university who lectures on that, he might b a good guest.

Mimi Muircastle: did you get my idea about the comparisons between educ. opps in other virtual worlds?

Romane Levee: So I welcome ideas on how to record at a price I can afford.

Olivia Hotshot: Noir - we need a name.

Noir Nagy: Tony Curtis in RL.

Romane Levee: No, mimi, I did not.

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Mimi--if it's in chat I'll log it

Olivia Hotshot: ty Noir.

Mimi Muircastle: it is in chat :)

Ignatius Onomatopoeia has Tony-Curtis envy

AJ Brooks: last call on ideas for topics or guests

AJ Brooks: if you think of something, you can always IM me, or Iggy, or Olivia

AJ Brooks: any other questions about anything from today?

Olivia Hotshot: Thanks for all the party volunteers - we won't start until 2 weeks before the meeting & will try to keep everyone's dedicated time small.

Kali Pizzaro: will you change your t-shirt in other vws?

AJ Brooks: I believe our next meeting, next week - is Voice Etiquette - and Joe will be our moderator

AJ Brooks thinks Kali is cheeky

Kali Pizzaro: me surely not

Noir Nagy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinima

AJ Brooks: lol

Sheila Yoshikawa: lol

Kali Pizzaro: a wee quiet soul

Noir Nagy: sorry that took so long.

AJ Brooks: can't trust the quite ones

Kali Pizzaro: ok need to get the dogs out for a pee

AJ Brooks: thats our meeting for this week folks - thanks, and see you soon.

Kali Pizzaro: my dog has been fascinated with the sler. vwer discussion

Sheila Yoshikawa: well, there's no answer to that

Ignatius Onomatopoeia: thanks y'all...still IMing students wandering the grid

Kali Pizzaro: hehe

Mimi Muircastle: thanks, AJ - interesting future stuff to think about :)

Katya Anatine: serious laggig here

Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks AJ

Kali Pizzaro: i look forward to my 2nd , 3rd, 4th lofe

Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks Iggy and Olivia

Kali Pizzaro: life

Olivia Hotshot: Thanks everyone for coming.

Sheila Yoshikawa: Thanks AJ and all

Viv Trafalgar: Looking forward to seeing everyone at Heritage Key tomorrow