Transcript of July 21, 2009 Second Life Roundtable Discussion
Topic: Open Forum (with a surprise guest from Mosul)
Iggy's Note: Special thanks to Anetha Gyranau for bringing Ashy Viper to this meeting!
Photos by Olivia Hotshot (visit Olivia's blog and Flickr photostream). See Olivia's Flickr group for the SLER to add your own photos.
Links Mentioned:
AJ Brooks: Hi everyone, and welcome to this weeks SL Education Roundtable.
AJ Brooks: These meetings are made possible by the Office of Information Technology at Montclair State University.
AJ Brooks: We meet here each week at 2:30pm SLT for an hour. Today is an Open Forum
AJ Brooks: Our meetings are roundtable style, so those in the theater seats please come down and join us at the table.
AJ Brooks: Our magic expanding table will always have an empty seat, located closest to the ramp.
AJ Brooks: This is a public meeting, so we do keep a transcript of what is said in local chat.
AJ Brooks: For a copy of older transcripts, please visit http://sler-transcripts.wikispaces.com and for more recent transcripts, please visit http://www.virtualworldsedu.info/slroundtable/
Aquiel Aero: just waiting for things to rez
AJ Brooks: Special thanks to our resident scribe, Iggy Onomatopoeia, for taking care of this. If you've not seen the transcripts, you should check them out - they are a great information asset.
AJ Brooks: Normally we have information on FUTURE MEETINGS, there is a notecard giver on the West wall of the Amphitheater.
Esme Qunhua: Aquiel there always seems to be a seat next to Alan S
AJ Brooks: However, our Program Committee is hard at work to bring you the late Summer/Fall schedule.
Jennette Forager smiles and waves @Cathy.
AJ Brooks: Special thanks to Iggy, Margaret, Olivia, and Kali for their work on that.
Elphaba Helendale: Well, I'm so excited that my students are presenting their SL projects this Thursday. It's the first one at my college. They created their group projects at our island.
CathyWyo1 Haystack: haha where I did I land?
Haley Swansong: wow big group tonight
AJ Brooks: If you are not part of the SLER SL in-world group, or the SLER Facebook group, you should be seeing the survey tomorrow.
AJ Brooks: Members of the SLER SL in-world group and Facebook group got a special version of the survey today and their input carries more weight.
Mimi Muircastle: Hi Cathy :)
AJ Brooks: The SL Education Roundtable meeting happens each week and we are looking to develop a community of educators from around the world with a variety of thoughts, needs, and ideas.
AJ Brooks: Please join the SL EDUCATION ROUNDTABLE group. If you have problems finding it in search, just outside this amphitheater you will see several displays. By clicking the appropriate one you can join the group.
AJ Brooks: As the group grows, there will be announcements, surveys, and decisions made that will be exclusive to the group (like the survey I just mentioned)
AJ Brooks: Aside from the island we are currently on, Montclair State University also has two other educational islands adjoining to the north.
AJ Brooks: There are also numerous learning areas on these adjoining islands, Montclair State CHSS, which is home to our Quidditch pitch and the SL MSU Library,
CathyWyo1 Haystack: rez rez rez
AJ Brooks: and Montclair State CEHSADP, which is home to The Theorist Project and Wilber Middle School Library. Wander around and enjoy.
AJ Brooks: If you are on Facebook, please join our group there - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=44078263753&ref=share
AJ Brooks: Thanks to Olivia Hotshot for putting together a Flickr group for the SLER. I encourage everyone to join the group and to take pictures from our meeting and add them to the group. Its a great way to show, and grow, our community.
Haley Swansong: Are we in voice or text
AJ Brooks: text
AJ Brooks: Finally, if you have Mystitool on, or other similar tool, please put it to sleep or detach it for now. :-) It tends to lag things.
Haley Swansong: ty
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Haley, we only use voice for first-of-month meetings
AJ Brooks: As a hint, it is better to have "local chat" open for these meetings, it will help you follow the conversation better.
AJ Brooks: You can find local chat by clicking COMMUNICATE in the bottom navigation bar and you'll find LOCAL CHAT as one of the tabs at the bottom of the Communicate window.
AJ Brooks: Why don't we get started they way we usually do, by introducing ourselves. No need to wait, go ahead and type who you are, where you are, and your ties to education into local chat.
AJ Brooks: I am AJ Kelton, Director of Emerging Instructional Technology for the College of Humanities and Social Sciences at Montclair State University
AJ Brooks: and the Coordinator of the Second Life Project for the College of Education and Human Services, also at MSU. We're located in northern New Jersey, just fourteen miles from midtown Manhattan.
CathyWyo1 Haystack: Cathy Anderson AcademicCoordinator SD board of regetns
Dickie Mint is Geoff Barker-Read from University of Leeds, UK. Better known as Geoff Lumley in SL. Wearing the wrong avatar today :-)
Katie Fenstalker: is Katie King at the University of Maryland, working in women's studies and new media and right now trying to finish up a book on reenactments and simulation.
Olivia Hotshot: Ann Steckel, California State Chico, Techie, Educator, Photographer & Quiddicator.
Grinn Pidgeon: Barbara L. Pittman Cuyahoga Community College, Cleveland, OH, Instructional Technology support for faculty
hobbs Constantine: Heather Dodds, Science Program Community Facilitator, Western Governors University www.wgu.edu
Alan Sandalwood: Alan Haywood, Education and Technology for EFL
Birdie Newcomb: Birdie Newcomb/Newborn, college publisher
Bisto Bock: Bob Sprankle K-4 Tech Integrator Wells, ME USA
JeanClaude Vollmar: I am JC (Jeff Le Blanc in RL) and work for the University of Northwestern Ohio as their VP for IT.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia is Joe Essid, Dept. of Rhetoric and Communication Studies. I'm the University of Richmond's Writing Center and Writing Across the Curriculum Director. I've taught 3 classes in writing or lit with SL.
Haley Swansong: k-8 educator Michigan
Sabastian Braveheart: Kurt Matson ... Education student Australia
Kali Pizzaro: Nurse and Nurse Lecturer Glasgow Caledonian
Jennette Forager: Janalee Redmond, The Epoch Institute, MD, USA
Aquiel Aero: Judy Kelly, Biology Faculty henry Ford community college
Zotarah Shepherd: I am a MA in Education (technology and psychology) student at Sonoma State University in northern California working an a curriculum project: Teaching and Learning Life-Skills in
Second Life. I am working on an Immersive Interactive Educational build about Life-skills.
Firery Broome: university of Delaware
Margaret Michalski: Margaret, Research Information Specialist, Univ of Illinois at Chicago.
Elphaba Helendale: Florida Community College at Jacksonville
Robit Gundersen: Bangor University ..Wales UK .. developing academic/industrial communications through virtual environments
Viv Trafalgar: educator builder and researcher at large
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: is Rosanna Brown, Librarian, Lassen Community College, Susanville, CA
ericcgcc Yootz: eric greene columbia gorge community college adj fac
Reverie Magic: k-7 educator in Canada
MonnaLisa Peccable: italian teacher involved in open source and e-learning
Ungo Azambuja: Jim Pangborn, independent scholar and adjunct in English, SUNY Oswego and Cayuga Comm Coll
Chavez Lefevre: Kalle Gjesvik, assistant professor, university of tromsø, norway Subject: Addiction
Elphaba Helendale: woo hoo for Adjuncts! lol
Robin Mochi: Robin, Reference & Distance Services Librarian, Portland, OR, USA and Karuna Island Consumer Health Librarian in SL
Joy Rembrandt: Winnie, Southern CT State University, Computer Science Dept faculty
Ungo Azambuja: adjuncts rule
Mimi Muircastle: mimi muircastle, educator, helping with case study committee
AJ Brooks: lol
lynsey Fleury: teacher at a school for social work, Amsteram, Holland
Anetha Gyranaut: anthea fraser gupta, university of leeds. School of English
Elphaba Helendale: and full-timers drool....
ericcgcc Yootz: :)
Joy Rembrandt: hey ...
Elphaba Helendale: lol
Elphaba Helendale: jk
enzo Tungsten: Bill Stewart, LLU Computer Center director, Houston, TX
AJ Brooks: anyone not introduce themselves yet?
Ungo Azambuja: hehehehehe
Alison Harcourt: I am Alison Harcourt from the University of Exeter
Fred Brecher: is Fred Hagemeister, Coordinator Academic Technology Services, University of Richmond Spiders
Roxie Neiro: Hi. I am Roxie Neiro
Dusty Artaud: Randi Kopp Kidsbridge Tolerance Museum New Jersey
Esme Qunhua: is Jane Wilde iRL faculty Education Department Marlboro College Grad School, adjunct and PhD Student University at Albany (NY USA)
AJ Brooks: wOOt for NJ!!!!
Dusty Artaud: hehe
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: *BIG* crowd today
Olivia Hotshot cheers for NJ as well.
Profdan Netizen: Dan Holt, Lansing Community College, professor of writing--fy composition and creative writing.
AJ Brooks: my - yes, a big group today
AJ Brooks: awesome
Roxie Neiro: I am Rosie Vojtek in RL - Principal from Bristol CT
AJ Brooks: anyone left to introduce?
Haley Swansong: hey doc
Eleonora Porta: Eleonora Porta professor Hih School Genova
Oronoque Westland: Roberta Kilkenny, Africana Studies, Hunter College, NY (across the rive from NJ)
AJ Brooks: what an awesome crowd
Olivia Hotshot: Oh my, more are still landing - i smell a 2 table session in our near future.
AJ Brooks: hi everyone, and welcome
AJ Brooks: a little house keeping news
Oronoque Westland: huge turnout
Birdie Newcomb: what hath AJ wrought...
AJ Brooks: thanks to the program committee, the survey is out for the SLER groups
Olivia Hotshot: Yay!!!
AJ Brooks: and will be out for others tomorrow
Oronoque Westland: 53
Zotarah Shepherd chuckles
Jennette Forager: 53 avatars and counting...
AJ Brooks: we've already had nearly 60 replies since about 9am this morning
Reverie Magic: It could be because people are on holidays and it is easier to make the meeting
Mimi Muircastle: I am working on mine :)
Roxie Neiro: YSE!
Oronoque Westland: raining and cold in the Northeast
Roxie Neiro: YES!
AJ Brooks: so, thank to those who have, thanx to those who will
Eleonora Porta: yes
Roxie Neiro: Raining and yuck in CT
Joy Rembrandt: yes
AJ Brooks: also - the case studies working group will be meeting tomorrow, I believe
Anetha Gyranaut: his ashy -- sit down!
Mimi Muircastle: Fog on the north coast
Olivia Hotshot: 103, not a cloud in the sky and sitting in air con.
AJ Brooks: a good group of like 6 or 7 of us
AJ Brooks: ok - lets get this out of our system - everybody say what the weather is like by them
Jennette Forager: (Empty chairs rez on the east side of the table folks..if you are having trouble seeing.)
Olivia Hotshot: too funny
Mimi Muircastle: Yes, I will be there at 6 pm, right?
Alan Sandalwood: Still cool and a littler ainy in sunny Brazil
Birdie Newcomb: sunny in So. Cal
Olivia Hotshot is frying eggs on the sidewalk later.
Kali Pizzaro: pouring
Robin Mochi: 94 and sunny in Portland, Oregon USA
Oronoque Westland: always nice in CHSSSouth
Katie Fenstalker: beatiful sunny warm but not hot summer in DC.
Dusty Artaud: rainy NY
AJ Brooks: that right, Oronoque
Haley Swansong: 78 sunny and perfect in the great lakes state
ericcgcc Yootz: 90 low humidity nice breeze on the columbia river eastern or today
Jennette Forager: yes, amazing weather in DC (the swamp.)
Ungo Azambuja: threatening rain in oswego county
Robit Gundersen: raining.. and sunny .. and cold .. and warm .. that was this morning
Sabastian Braveheart: Clear and cool Brisbane
Zotarah Shepherd: Clear and sunny in Rohnert Park - Northern CA
AJ Brooks: horrible all day here in northern NJ
Alan Sandalwood: Brisbane?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Same swamp as DC in Richmond :)
AJ Brooks: massive amounts of downfall
Duncan Ramer: central OR Hot even the dogs are melting
Anetha Gyranaut: wet in leeds
Anetha Gyranaut: and our graduation day!
MonnaLisa Peccable: oh I thought only Brits spoke about weather :)
Chavez Lefevre: Northern Norway Weather Report: Sun is brightly shining in the middle of the night
Alison Harcourt: also in Exeter
Kev Juno: I was just down in DC for the Blackboard conference
Jennette Forager: The region is set to 90 (whew!)
Haley Swansong: you can all move to MI we have plenty of space
AJ Brooks: ok - everyoen feel better. :-)
Christien Suntzu: Or MN!
CathyWyo1 Haystack: how was the blackboard conference heard thing got a little contentious
AJ Brooks: now - when you see the survey, please be sure to fill it out
Profdan Netizen: Yes, we do, Haley--lots of empty buildings!
AJ Brooks: lets try not to get off topic before we have a topic? :-)
CathyWyo1 Haystack: hehe
Olivia Hotshot is trying to get an in-world ACTIVE Bb usrs group going - Interested, IM me.
AJ Brooks: no repeats of last week, my fingers are not working so well tonight
AJ Brooks: :-)
Margaret Michalski: @ AJ dido
AJ Brooks: last week was amazing, no?
AJ Brooks: I can't remember a meeting quite like that
Anetha Gyranaut laughs
Zotarah Shepherd: yes
Mimi Muircastle: great meeting good ideas :)
Kev Juno: I am, especially since they now have the Second Life building lock fr Blackboard
AJ Brooks: was it the topic?
AJ Brooks: was it the full moon?
Elphaba Helendale: Kev - they do??!!
Marc Rexen: ...typing and thinking s l o w...yes it was AJ.
AJ Brooks: :-)
Kev Juno: yes, was announced at the conference
AJ Brooks: ok - so tonight we have an open forum
CathyWyo1 Haystack: troublemakers here last week better group this week
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Kev, what does that mean?
CathyWyo1 Haystack: more focus
Chavez Lefevre: good!
Kev Juno: can fin it atprojects.oscelot.org or at blackboardextensions.com
AJ Brooks: so, since a few folks want to chat about Blackboard, lest let that one run its course
AJ Brooks: pun intended
Kev Juno: similar to sloodle but for blackboard
CathyWyo1 Haystack: it lookst like D2L will be more open so we may see more ablity to integrate with them as well
Birdie Newcomb: another sloodle?
Profdan Netizen: Olivia, does that include those of us assimilated by Blackborg, Angel users?
Katie Fenstalker: already available for BB or to come?
Carl Metropolitan is Online
Olivia Hotshot: D2L just joined with Elluminate too.
CathyWyo1 Haystack: borg haha
CathyWyo1 Haystack: yes
Kev Juno: plugs into Learn 9
Katie Fenstalker: (blackborg --- I like that .....)
CathyWyo1 Haystack: Iwent to their conference in st paul
Olivia Hotshot: hah, beware of the borg, Profdan
AJ Brooks: BLACKBORG!!!!!!! HA HA HA HA AH AH HA AH HAHA HAHA
AJ Brooks: I will TOTALLY be using that from now on
CathyWyo1 Haystack: there was an excelletn session on second lfe presented by a faculty member from UWI
Olivia Hotshot: yes, please - anyone who wants to be in the mix for Bb inworld let me know
Oronoque Westland: /thinks that makes me 1 of 54
Bisto Bock: lol me2
Kali Pizzaro: resistance is futile
AJ Brooks: count me in Olivia
Haley Swansong: Resistance ifs futile-you will be assimilated to the blackborg
Olivia Hotshot: gotcha AJ
Kali Pizzaro: haha haley
Katie Fenstalker: will try Olivia (I hate the borg so much....)
Ashy Viper: I'll try another chair
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: ah, thanks....no course management for me, but it's a welcome development
Profdan Netizen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikelesombre/3510951708/
Jennette Forager: It's okay Ashy.
CathyWyo1 Haystack: no lms is perfect
Olivia Hotshot pats the beware of the borg poster on my wall here
AJ Brooks: well - MSU is a BlackBorg institution, so like it or not, I have to pay attention
Ungo Azambuja: oops
Birdie Newcomb: EduGeek has been badmouthing LMSW systems in general --
CathyWyo1 Haystack: better integration of web 2.0 is a good thing and
Olivia Hotshot: as are we.
Jennette Forager: they rez in the east, tho, if you insist on your own chair.
Birdie Newcomb: hoping for 2.0, I assume
AJ Brooks: now - if Bb were to have a sloodle like product, that would make me convincing peopel to try SL much easier
Ashy Viper: I'm sitting on top of the chair ... looks a bit rude .. lol
CathyWyo1 Haystack: Microfot announce integration of live.edu with moodle today
Olivia Hotshot: Did you allsee today tah Moodle did a mindmeld with Microsoft?
Birdie Newcomb: LMS as walled garden
CathyWyo1 Haystack: hah beat you to it olivia
Jennette Forager: wow! Thats smart of them.
Birdie Newcomb: Naw
Katie Fenstalker: LMS as ugly bathroom....
AJ Brooks: explain please
Christien Suntzu: How so, Olivia?
enzo Tungsten: I'm getting a lap dance from Ashy.
CathyWyo1 Haystack: whew they didn't ask me not techy at all
Ashy Viper: haha
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: LMS as gated communities..if they'd let guests see the courses, I'd like them more
Olivia Hotshot: let me get url
AJ Brooks: 53 peopl, for the transcript, btw
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: b/c compostionists share our content
Birdie Newcomb: or get in without logging in
Reverie Magic: Has anyone found an effective way to get reluctant staff onboard with technology?
CathyWyo1 Haystack: are we gong to crash this sim
Anetha Gyranaut: Ashy is looking for a seat!
CathyWyo1 Haystack: retirement
Katie Fenstalker: yeah. I'd rather be on Blogger than LMS anyday.....
Kev Juno: seco
AJ Brooks: no - this sim has held over 90
Duncan Ramer: whip and a chair works for me
AJ Brooks: WordPress - so much better than blogger
Bisto Bock: lol cathywyo
Olivia Hotshot: ---> Moodle Links with Live@edu http://campustechnology.com/articles/2009/07/21/moodle-links-with-live-edu.aspx
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Cathy--they need a reason to try a new tool
CathyWyo1 Haystack: attrition
CathyWyo1 Haystack: some faculty just aren't cut out for teck
Ashy Viper: thats more like it
CathyWyo1 Haystack: some students are not either
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: please put any links you have into the chat, for our transcript.
Duncan Ramer: that is what cattle prods are for its coming whether they like it or not
CathyWyo1 Haystack: it has to tie to learning objectives and the pedagogy
Profdan Netizen: However, with colleges that have a large online program, the similar look and feel an LMS affords is hard fight against with admin.
CathyWyo1 Haystack: there has to be a reason
Haley Swansong: Tech needs to take the work they already do easier not one more added thing to so
Katie Fenstalker: (but Blogger is Google....)
AJ Brooks: LMS's have their benefits
Esme Qunhua: compostionists?
AJ Brooks: I know BLogger is Google, but I still ike WP better (and I'm a TOTAL Google head
enzo Tungsten: The problem with "reluctant" staff and students is that they are trying to use a technology they don't understand.
Olivia Hotshot: would love to have the borg here as a guest - they have just started embracing Twitter - maybe SL has a chance.
AJ Brooks: you should have heard me yesterday when I got my google voice number
CathyWyo1 Haystack: more often then not your best advocate for technology are your students we have students who asked their faculty why their course materials aren't in the lms
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Esme--Rhet/Composition faculty
CathyWyo1 Haystack: lots of reasons it's greener to have course materials in the lms then print or copt them for everyone
Ashy Viper: Ashraf Al-Allaf --- professor - Mosul University - Iraq
CathyWyo1 Haystack: copy
Profdan Netizen: Olivia, Angel was beginning to explore integration of SL--maybe they'll infect the rest of the collective?
Katie Fenstalker: (yes, the students want me to scan all their books into LMS so they dont have to buy them.....)
AJ Brooks: WE ahve someone here from Iraq?
CathyWyo1 Haystack: tht is true
Jennette Forager: Welcome, Ashy!
enzo Tungsten: Using MS applications is what passes for digital literacy these days.
Reverie Magic: I think it also has to do with the reliability of the equipment (like getting everyone logged on) they get frustrated and give up
Marc Rexen: Students aren't embracing Twitter, and Cell Phones are for private conversations...we're still searching for a good Web 2.0 for the current generation.
Kali Pizzaro: the organisation has a responsibility to teach their staff and not all do
Kev Juno: lms = central database of course materials that plugins can access in an open source manner
Olivia Hotshot: @Profdan, they did - but it was just an island - i am hoping for more sloodlesque integration
Ashy Viper: Thank you Jennette
Duncan Ramer: actually I find it pretty easy in drag them in kicking and screaming just do it and make them change
Profdan Netizen: They were exploring such, Olivia,
AJ Brooks: wait 0- did someone here say they were currently in Iraq?
Profdan Netizen: like a drop box integration.
Jennette Forager: Ashy is.
Haley Swansong: My elementary kids use all web applications
CathyWyo1 Haystack: they still have the time to interact face to face---have a social life
Joy Rembrandt: Welcome Ashy
CathyWyo1 Haystack: haha
Olivia Hotshot: @Prof - i had heard that as well.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @Ashy, salaam alaikum
AJ Brooks: Ashy - welcome!
AJ Brooks: I hope you and your family are well
Duncan Ramer: SL is social
Ashy Viper: ty Joy, AJ
Katie Fenstalker: (army brat waves at Ashy....)
AJ Brooks: I'm surprised you are able to get into SL with the limits on badnwidth
CathyWyo1 Haystack: it is social but they have many choices
Haley Swansong: we do CAD dgital photo, programming, and use tons of art, simulation , music, and design tools
Reverie Magic: There was an interesting article in our paper about Twitter....said it is for "old folks" (according to teenagers)
AJ Brooks: what is technology ineducation like in Iraq these days?
Marc Rexen: Can do Eluminate to Iraq.
Ashy Viper: waves back
Marc Rexen: LMS's as well.
Ashy Viper: Its better than you'd expect I think
Kali Pizzaro: yeah i read that reverie
AJ Brooks: wonderful
Elizabeth Canonmill is Online
Jarrad Voom: Welcome Ashy
Ashy Viper: especially in the pure sciences
CathyWyo1 Haystack: again they have to have the reason to use second life or any other tech or they will question its use
AJ Brooks: I'm guessing that much of what we are seeing here is propaganda
Mimi Muircastle: @ashy do you teach online?
Ashy Viper: not so much social sciences though
CathyWyo1 Haystack: how the faculty prepares them and builds the case for is use is essential as well
AJ Brooks: the humanities and social sciences, always the red-headed step-shild
Alan Sandalwood: LMSs can save a lot of work
Duncan Ramer: as opposed to the impure sciences and crappy arts as opposed to fine arts?
Marc Rexen: Tech support can be a bitch with so many links, often quite jealously guarded, but the Military does like it when their members take courses.
Ashy Viper: No I dont Mimi ... its not recognized by our Ministry
Alan Sandalwood: Ambiguity. Reduce work
Mimi Muircastle: are you exploring teaching in SL?
Jarrad Voom: Welcome Ashy
CathyWyo1 Haystack: the use of second life or any other tech takes some front end work for the "pioneers"
Ashy Viper: BRB ...
Olivia Hotshot: security - potential authentication
AJ Brooks: wow - Ashy, how did you get into SL?
Oronoque Westland: I used a lot of tech this summer (not SL though :~( due to connectivity issues)...students loved it...small class, much handholding at first, but it was great
Ashy Viper: ty Jarrad
Joy Rembrandt: impure sciences?!!
Profdan Netizen: And similar tools from class to class, Alan.
Ashy Viper: answer u in a bit AJ
Ashy Viper: BRB
Jarrad Voom: sure don't you aatch "Bones"
Katie Fenstalker: the more handholding one can do the better -- small is beautiful....
CathyWyo1 Haystack: I think we need to look at how Second Life, Twitter, facebook builds not only social networking but social knowledge
Katie Fenstalker: yesh ChatyWhyo1
Mimi Muircastle: good point Cathy
Birdie Newcomb: connectivism
Reverie Magic: As educators we sure have to think about what kind of assignments we give.....tech makes it too easy to plagiarize
Alan Sandalwood: Less 'tool up' cause similar appearance week to week
LoCE99Ch8 Morpork: Drat! RL calls. Bye and have fun.
Esme Qunhua: cathy if you mean shared expanded knowledge YES
Kali Pizzaro: knowledge transfer is the phrases of the moment
Ashy Viper: back
Grinn Pidgeon: Hard to shift from teaching focus to learning focus, so faculty see SL as really hard to teach in and never think of whether it would be easy to learn in--stuck in the how-to
Birdie Newcomb: aren't we rethinking plagiarism already?
Haley Swansong: Tectech also makes it easy to check kids who copy
CathyWyo1 Haystack: Yes @Esme
Marc Rexen: To use a loaded, but very applicable word, SL forces, or lets, you learn diversity to your soul.
Birdie Newcomb: like rethinking copyright
Anetha Gyranaut: technology also makes it easier to detect plagiarism
Katie Fenstalker: (hates knowledge transfer -- all about academic capitalism...)
Duncan Ramer: the math assignments are easy in that once a student creates the project their name is on it as the creator
Kali Pizzaro: haha indeed Katie
CathyWyo1 Haystack: Its not just cutesy or fun but knowledge building by all connecting together ..we discover new things by sharing
Ungo Azambuja: yes, birdy, but it's very hard to reach consensus on plagiarism issues
Haley Swansong: Once I show my students how easy it is to catch their copying it no longer is a problem.
Ashy Viper: technology also makes it easier to access it
CathyWyo1 Haystack: and it can be fun
Oronoque Westland: since class was small I also assigned a reflective journal with weekly entries...wanted to integrate more assessments (learned that at one of our roundtables heehee)
Duncan Ramer: if the share the project it still has the name of the creator on it
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @ Kali, "knowledge transfer " sure sounds like we're not creating knowledge...but telling them what to know :(
Birdie Newcomb: we all build on other's knowledge
CathyWyo1 Haystack: but students need a guide to realize that while they are having fun they are creating new knowledge and learning for others
AJ Brooks: If the conversation is going by too quickly - remember to have your LOCAL CHAT open. IM AJ Brooks if you are not sure how to do that.
Kali Pizzaro: just the latest buzz word Iggy
Ungo Azambuja: keyword "build"
Ignatius Onomatopoeia nods at Kali
Birdie Newcomb: I hope that is so, rather than relearning sometihg canned
Katie Fenstalker: Let's be sure we communicate that we make knowledge too.
Christien Suntzu: Constructivist learning .... literally.
Joy Rembrandt: refer to Vygotsky for knowledge construction
CathyWyo1 Haystack: yes
Joy Rembrandt: yes!
Bisto Bock: yes
Birdie Newcomb: Yay vygotsky
AJ Brooks: Hey Folks....
Anetha Gyranaut isn't sure about Vygotsky
Jarrad Voom: yes
Joy Rembrandt: all vygotskians, we should get together!
AJ Brooks: we have a unique opportunity here
Kali Pizzaro: yeah Christien that is my way of teaching as i teach experienced nurses who come with a lot of knowledge to build on
Joy Rembrandt: why not?
Katie Fenstalker: And that cognition and affect are parts of our play and knowlege making....
Zotarah Shepherd: yes yay Vygotsky!
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: I find it distressing that so many Millennials (born after 1982) are not taking to Web 2.0 technologies. My kids--all well connected are not using blogs or Twitter.
AJ Brooks: I'd like to focus us if possible
Duncan Ramer: too close to vegetarians for me
AJ Brooks: just for a few minutes
Kali Pizzaro: social constructivism
Ungo Azambuja: ~listening intently~
Marc Rexen: That the 2.0 issue Iggy.
Anetha Gyranaut: /focuses
Viv Trafalgar is listening
Robin Mochi: I did the same, Oronoque Westland
AJ Brooks: Ashy has kindly agreed to talk to us about Education in Iraq
Margaret Michalski: GO Ahead AJ
CathyWyo1 Haystack: @Ig ut they don't need to they are saturated with social in their day to day lives
Mimi Muircastle: praying for AJ to have strength :)
CathyWyo1 Haystack: but
Katie Fenstalker: @ Iggy what do they do instead?
CathyWyo1 Haystack: laughs
Jarrad Voom: \focuses
AJ Brooks: I'm gong to go all Sister Mary Elephant here
AJ Brooks: lol
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: let's hear from Ashy
CathyWyo1 Haystack: some?
Mimi Muircastle: go AJ!
Esme Qunhua: I think the youth use web 2.0 just not the ones we like and they don't see it as web 2.0 it is just the web
AJ Brooks: Class
Jennette Forager listens.
AJ Brooks: CLASS
AJ Brooks: CLASSSSSS
AJ Brooks: lol
Duncan Ramer: sits on knuckles
CathyWyo1 Haystack: ok I will order a pizza
Bisto Bock: lol
AJ Brooks: I won't say the last line
JeanClaude Vollmar: lol
AJ Brooks: So - Ashy, what do you teach?
Ashy Viper: I teach English at undergrad level
AJ Brooks: english - really? cool
AJ Brooks: is that amandatory class?
Ashy Viper: Linguistics, Phonetics, Phonology
Birdie Newcomb: ow, tech stuff
Ashy Viper: Grammar, Conversation
Reverie Magic: Is English a first language for you?
ericcgcc Yootz: AV english as in literture or second language?
Ashy Viper: I'm regarded as a semi-native speaker
Anetha Gyranaut laughs
Duncan Ramer: semi native?
Mimi Muircastle: Like AJ, I am curious about the freedom you have to be in SL
Katie Fenstalker: (likes term semi-native)
Duncan Ramer: semi . . .
Anetha Gyranaut: this reminds me of the dreadful Bloomfield expression
Ashy Viper: yes
Anetha Gyranaut: 'semilingual' YUK
Anetha Gyranaut: a dreadful expression
Ashy Viper: I was born in Iraq but moved to the UK when I was six
AJ Brooks nods
Duncan Ramer: kind of like being a little bit pregnant?
Alan Sandalwood: Another brit?
Praxislady Witt: @ Ignatius, they grew up with it and is not shiny new to them unlike their parents or teachers.
Ashy Viper: stayed there for eight years
Eleonora Porta: what age come back to Iraq?
AJ Brooks: what it is like for education in Iraq right now?
Anetha Gyranaut: 6+8-14
Ashy Viper: so when I came back to Iraq ...didnt know much Arabic
Kali Pizzaro: oh
Anetha Gyranaut: 6+8=14
Joy Rembrandt: answer is zero
Montclair State CHSSSouth Free Land Initiative - Faire:
Anetha Gyranaut: presumably your spoken Arabic was ok?
Ashy Viper: education in Iraq is somewhat relative
AJ Brooks: relative?
Ashy Viper: yes Anetha
Duncan Ramer: first cousins only!
Ashy Viper: somewhat*
Duncan Ramer: ?
Ashy Viper: yes ... by location
AJ Brooks: relative to what?
AJ Brooks: ah
AJ Brooks: ok
Chavez Lefevre: I am working on an anthology about SL - published in Norway. Very much about Educational possibilities. Would those of you that wants to contribute or give you remarks about these possibilities please email me at kalle.gjesvik@uit.no. Thanx
AJ Brooks: forgive my ignorance, is Mosul one of the largest cities?
Esme Qunhua: Ashy do you mind being the center of attention here?
Reverie Magic: How does it differ form region to region?
AJ Brooks: Esem, I already asked. :-)
Esme Qunhua: ok
Mimi Muircastle: yes, good question Esme :)
Ashy Viper: Mosul is the place where education has been a priority for the local authorities
Ashy Viper: no I dont mind
AJ Brooks: thats wonderful
Ashy Viper: its perfectly ok
Ashy Viper: glad to be here
Mimi Muircastle: this is very generous and gracious of you Ashy
AJ Brooks: Yes, I should say that - I did ask Ashy privately if he minded be the topic for a few minutes
Ungo Azambuja: I take it Mosul is a relatively cosmopolitan place? --relatively?
Esme Qunhua: We are fascinated Ashy
Oronoque Westland: @Ashy...do any of your students come nto Second Life?
AJ Brooks: we are thrilled to have you
Mimi Muircastle: we are, I am!
AJ Brooks: great questions, Oronoque
Ashy Viper: its a beautiful amalgamation of very diverse backgrounds
Anetha Gyranaut: Mosul, or sl?
Ungo Azambuja: lol
Mimi Muircastle: yes, I too am curious about the freedom to be in SL
Ashy Viper: Mosul
AJ Brooks: so, no middle class
Anetha Gyranaut: is internet access censored at all?
Ashy Viper: oh ... actually the majority are middle class
Oronoque Westland: @Ashy...is coming into Second Life an issue of "freedom" or of resources?
AJ Brooks: oh - ok
Ashy Viper: yes it is censored
Bisto Bock: wow
Anetha Gyranaut: by whom and how?
Ungo Azambuja: Is rhetoric, the composition of persuasive texts, part of what you teach?
Chavez Lefevre: sorry I have to leave you. Its late night here, and I have to teach early
Ashy Viper: by WISP companies...for religious reasons
Kev Juno: for the log - url for BB secondlife is http://idiarts.org/projects/25
AJ Brooks: WISP?
Anetha Gyranaut: religious reasons?????
Mimi Muircastle: Waht is WISP?
Zotarah Shepherd: Bye Chavez
Ashy Viper: Wireless Internet Service Provider
AJ Brooks: ah
Mimi Muircastle: thanks :)
Eleonora Porta: what TLC support do you have in Mosul? satellite or mobile ?or..
Mimi Muircastle: Who owns/controls the WISP?
AJ Brooks: what are they looking for, to censor
Ashy Viper: Yes Anetha ... pornography and the such ... we are a Muslim society after all
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: so do your students tend to work in labs or use laptops they own?
Reverie Magic: What kinds of things are permitted? and censored?
Anetha Gyranaut: what about sl then?
AJ Brooks: yes - how do you get away with being in SL?
Ashy Viper: they are private companies that abide by the law
Anetha Gyranaut: look what you are sitting between!!!
Ashy Viper: not many people know about SL
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: BTW, 47 people on the sim
Mimi Muircastle: how did you learn about SL?
Ashy Viper: From my friend Anetha .. LOL
AJ Brooks: have you ever brought your students in?
Kali Pizzaro: go Anetha
Anetha Gyranaut: Ashy is hoping to be my student
Ashy Viper: not yet ... still a bit new myself
Ashy Viper: fingers crossed
Anetha Gyranaut: visas permitting
AJ Brooks: how did you hear about this meeting?
Jennette Forager: down from 54 avatars. Impressive.
Anetha Gyranaut: this is a big problem in UK and US
Anetha Gyranaut: I suggested he come
Ashy Viper: ty Anetha
Mimi Muircastle: thank you Anetha :)
Ashy Viper: not all students have Internet access during lectures
Anetha Gyranaut: our students don't either
Mimi Muircastle: yes, too true here too
Ashy Viper: especially in our department
AJ Brooks: how many students have their own computers
Marc Rexen: Lots of Burka's within SL, so dress code won't be an issue.
Dickie Mint: Ashy - it must be the middle of the night in Iraq?
Kali Pizzaro: ours have wireless
Ashy Viper: at home ... most people have computers
Anetha Gyranaut: most students, that is?
Reverie Magic: How much technology is there in the schools for younger children?
AJ Brooks: what percentage of the college age population goes to college?
Mimi Muircastle: good ques. AJ
Kali Pizzaro: are most students from middle class families Ashy?
Ashy Viper: yes Anetha .. most students and most people
Mimi Muircastle: and I am curious what the costs for college educ. are
Ashy Viper: education is free in Iraq ... everyone goes to college
Mimi Muircastle: wow!
AJ Brooks: WOW!!!!!
Kali Pizzaro: excellent
Anetha Gyranaut: EVERYONE!
Bisto Bock: wow
Birdie Newcomb: Yay for free ed
Marc Rexen: agreed.
Anetha Gyranaut: 'college' meaning what age?
Anetha Gyranaut: WOW
Ashy Viper: everyone who makes it through high school
Alan Sandalwood: Absolutely
Mimi Muircastle: if you are from CA, you wish!
Ashy Viper: 18
AJ Brooks: so, what % makes it through high school
Anetha Gyranaut: good ! AJ
Mimi Muircastle: yes good
Ashy Viper: I'd say about 60%
Olivia Hotshot: <-- cali and happy about it - poor, maybe unemployed, but happy
AJ Brooks: hey - thats better than here I think
Mimi Muircastle: I am also curious what % of young people go to high school
Anetha Gyranaut: better than UK too
Birdie Newcomb: That makes for a lot of educated people
Anetha Gyranaut: maybe you need to confirm statistics
Mimi Muircastle: @Olivia, me too:)
Esme Qunhua: do you think men and women go to college at equal rates?
Olivia Hotshot: Do students have to dress the role in SL, or faculty for that matter? Burkas for example. Can you buy one in sl?
Mimi Muircastle: yes, those % beat the ones I know of
AJ Brooks: Just so you all know, Ashy and I are going to talk in the next few days, he has graciously agreed to be a guest at an upcoming Special 1st of the Month voice meetings.
Kali Pizzaro: Ashy is that male and female and if so has this always been the case recently
Olivia Hotshot: Great thinking AJ.
Marc Rexen: Yes, many Burkas in SL.
Olivia Hotshot: i had no idea.
AJ Brooks: It seems to have been one of those group ideas, while I was asking him, others were IMing me to ask him. :-)
Dusty Artaud: large Muslim community here
AJ Brooks: very large
Anetha Gyranaut: oops
Bisto Bock: in sl?
Anetha Gyranaut: problems in link I imagine
AJ Brooks: crap - he dropped off line
Olivia Hotshot: I learn something new every time i come here
AJ Brooks: me too
Bisto Bock: awesome
AJ Brooks: i love these meetings
Kali Pizzaro: yep Olivia
Blizzard Oates: Hey!
Bisto Bock: this is what it's all about
Mimi Muircastle: wow - this has been amazing - thx AJ and Ashy :) and Anetha
AJ Brooks: well - I'll be interviewing him, perhaps even as early as the august meeting
Jarrad Voom: Way to go Anetha!
Viv Trafalgar: thank you AJ and Ashy and Anetha - this was wonderful
Anetha Gyranaut: I hope his work goes well
Anetha Gyranaut: I thought you might be interested
AJ Brooks: so - we have some time left
Mimi Muircastle: I am
Reverie Magic: Does technology play a very big role in pre- high school (ages 5-12)
Birdie Newcomb: a little bit of RL in SL
AJ Brooks: anyone have a question
AJ Brooks: Reverie, since the main grid is 18 and older, you may not have many people here who can answer that
Olivia Hotshot: my head is spinning - what just happened? =)
Dusty Artaud: SLCC if you are going please type "+1"
Mimi Muircastle: from my pov tech is huge in all ages :)
Birdie Newcomb: even the Teen Grid is 13+
Esme Qunhua: +1
Mimi Muircastle: I can since I am a k12 person
Dusty Artaud: +1
Profdan Netizen: Read recently that the largest age group in VWs is 14 years old.
Mimi Muircastle: I wish I were +1 :(
Reverie Magic: sorry, I was hoping Ashy could answer that :o)
Mimi Muircastle: 14 makes sense to me
AJ Brooks: 77% is from 5-15
Esme Qunhua: Rev I think it depends a lot on school district. But most states have technology standards - that are no where near being met
AJ Brooks: according to KZero a number just published
Mimi Muircastle: true, esme
Olivia Hotshot: they SAY their 14 but they're really 11. *nods*
Profdan Netizen: Yep, that's where I read it, AJ.
Alan Sandalwood: Doesnt SL have an ave age of about 37?
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: gives me hope for younger Millennial-generation students...they are learning to play
AJ Brooks: 33
AJ Brooks: I think
Kali Pizzaro: heard that Alan
AJ Brooks: but between 33-37
CathyWyo1 Haystack: yes I think 33
Anetha Gyranaut: I think we might want ot be cautious about informal assessments of intrnet penetration
AJ Brooks: mid 30s
hobbs Constantine: laughs with Olivia
Alan Sandalwood: Tks
Haley Swansong: To be fair t the High Schools the requirements dont leave much room fortechnology classes
Anetha Gyranaut is way above average age
Oronoque Westland: my students use a lot of handheld devices, to a greater extent than computers (except for schoolwork, of course)...when we talk about Ed Tech as educators are we talking more computers and therefore not the same tech that students might be into?
enzo Tungsten: I wondered if anyone had a definition for computer or digital literacy that focuses on what one must know conceptually rather than what one must be able to do.
Esme Qunhua: With over 100 VWs kids are using lots of VWs in their freetime.
Olivia Hotshot: There.com vs Second Life: demographics : http://www.kzero.co.uk/blog/?p=961
Mimi Muircastle: true, Esme
CathyWyo1 Haystack: yes handhelds seem to be the direction they are going
Olivia Hotshot: old but might be helpful
Kali Pizzaro: mobile is the way me thinks
Mimi Muircastle: me too
Birdie Newcomb: iPhone can do SL, I've heard
Esme Qunhua: ISTE has some good information about technology literacy
Katie Fenstalker: ty Olivia!
Anetha Gyranaut: i think it is now like book literacy -- diversified
AJ Brooks: i would find it hard to survive daily without my iPhone
Kali Pizzaro: can it?
Olivia Hotshot: welcome
CathyWyo1 Haystack: seems odd why do sl on a handheld
Joy Rembrandt: at the 5-15 age group, major problem is access, becoming a social responsibility
Bisto Bock: @ bridie... it can?
Dusty Artaud: Birdie it can? just got iPhone.
Kali Pizzaro: me too sad i know
CathyWyo1 Haystack: bt ok
Anetha Gyranaut: but I agree that the youth participation is hand held and TINY
Jennette Forager: wb Ashy!
Anetha Gyranaut: welcome back Ashy
AJ Brooks: WB Ashy
Oronoque Westland: hi Ashy
Katie Fenstalker: no SL on iPhone -- can get friends online screen.
CathyWyo1 Haystack: want my sl on the giant screen
Birdie Newcomb: For me it's a rumor, since I don't have one
Mimi Muircastle: yay Ashy
Alan Sandalwood: Welcome back Ashy
Ashy Viper: Sorry everyone ... national power went off
nausica Naimarc: hi ashy
AJ Brooks: :-O
Mimi Muircastle: national ?
AJ Brooks: national power?
Bisto Bock: national power?
Ashy Viper: TY
AJ Brooks: the whoel country went dark?
Anetha Gyranaut: this is something we read about re Iraq
Olivia Hotshot: National Power?
Oronoque Westland: @Ashy...are you using a generator?
Praxislady Witt: The learning concept is the same as computers, only a different media display as in hand sets?
Ashy Viper: yes ... electricity
Olivia Hotshot: yikes
Jennette Forager: I think Ashy has the SL stuff--tenacity!
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: @enzo, if you find that definition somewhere, PLEASE share it here
Ashy Viper: I am now Oronoque
Alan Sandalwood: SL is Ok on VGA datashow, but nothing special
AJ Brooks: wow
Mimi Muircastle: you are tough!
Joy Rembrandt: go Enzo
Ashy Viper: used to it
Ashy Viper: ol
AJ Brooks: i guess so
CathyWyo1 Haystack: @Ashy many countries have technology on their national agenda how about Iraq
CathyWyo1 Haystack: q
Ashy Viper: gotta find a seat again
Anetha Gyranaut: behind you
enzo Tungsten: try The Computer Literacy Initiative http://www.computerliteracyusa.com
Ashy Viper: Hi Nausica
AJ Brooks: i think everyone here would get up and give you their seat
Jennette Forager: behind you, slightly to your right.
Mimi Muircastle: true
AJ Brooks: over by the ramp
CathyWyo1 Haystack: are their initiatives being undertaken to strengthen the infrastructure
CathyWyo1 Haystack: there
enzo Tungsten: ty Joy :)
Ashy Viper: hehe ... ty AJ
CathyWyo1 Haystack: egads
Ashy Viper: the other ones havent loaded yet
CathyWyo1 Haystack: pizza will be here soon folks
Haley Swansong: what is a WV?
AJ Brooks: excellent, i'm starved
Olivia Hotshot: This is going to be one heck of a transcript today.
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: LOL
Ashy Viper: certain parts of the city
Mimi Muircastle: valuable
Joy Rembrandt: real pizza?
Olivia Hotshot: VW = virtualworld
Katie Fenstalker: (I'm ready for pizza for sure.)
CathyWyo1 Haystack: not like last week
Ashy Viper: they study IT ... one subject
AJ Brooks: ok - we only have about 5 minutes left
CathyWyo1 Haystack: then what?
Haley Swansong: we sound just like our students
Katie Fenstalker: we are our students.....
Robin Mochi: /ao off
Mimi Muircastle: yes, Haley - my thoughts too!!!!
Olivia Hotshot: we'remuch hipper Haley
CathyWyo1 Haystack: where do you think they get it from
Mimi Muircastle: mimics
Reverie Magic: So it is taught as a separate subject, not integrated with other subjects?
AJ Brooks: we were once our students
CathyWyo1 Haystack: only its not cool when we do it
AJ Brooks: it WAS, Cathy
CathyWyo1 Haystack: haha
AJ Brooks: back in the day
Ashy Viper: in schools yes
AJ Brooks: :-)
Ashy Viper: one subject
Reverie Magic: ty :o)
Olivia Hotshot: Ashy, thank you so much for popping on here today. I for one has learned a lot already and look forward to your return.
AJ Brooks: is English a required class?
Katie Fenstalker: Ashy what do you think SL would be the most useful to you for in your teaching?
Anetha Gyranaut: how many computers would there be for (say) 6 year olds in a school?
Bisto Bock: ditto, olivia
Haley Swansong: I am a digital explorer- not native didn't immigrate have always been trying to use tech as a tool
Anetha Gyranaut: Haley?
AJ Brooks: lol
Bisto Bock: <take that prenksy!> lol, haley
Ashy Viper: they'd have one lab for the whole school ....of about 500 students
Ashy Viper: about 20 computers
Olivia Hotshot: it's ok, all immigrants are forgiven - special papal dispensation
Anetha Gyranaut: Oh dear
AJ Brooks: 20 computers for 500 students?
Mimi Muircastle: that is the same as my old middle school - 800 kids, one lab
Ashy Viper: about that yes ...
AJ Brooks: yuck
Eleonora Porta: Ashy, in college all the subjects are involved with tech? or only soem of them?
Haley Swansong: darn long finger nails
Katie Fenstalker: so demonstrations mostly?
Ashy Viper: I cant say all of them
AJ Brooks: is lecture still the primary method of teaching?
Anetha Gyranaut: and not much access time
Oronoque Westland: sounds like a better ratio than a NYC public school
Ashy Viper: but definitely most
Ashy Viper: YES! ... lecture is
Mimi Muircastle: yup, CA too
Marc Rexen: Better ratio than most colleges.
CathyWyo1 Haystack: @Ahy I asked earlier if Iraq like many countries has any plans for developing their tech infrastructure perhaps an office of technology
Anetha Gyranaut: is that so, Oronoque!!???
Olivia Hotshot: How are the libraries there? Are books censored as heavily as the tech?
Ashy Viper: not much cooperative or student based learning around
Oronoque Westland: @Anetha...my Mom's neighbor teaches a gifted middle school class...one computer in the room
Reverie Magic: what kind of computer platform is most common? (here it is PC vs Mac)
Mimi Muircastle: Where were you trained to be a teacher?
AJ Brooks: so, no real constructivist learning ?
Ashy Viper: no ... books are quite available but not as modern as one would want them to be
Ashy Viper: in Mosul
Anetha Gyranaut: That's baaaad, Oronoque. It is better here in UK
CathyWyo1 Haystack: did anyone see the article on the chronicle about asking the computers out of the classroom because the students are bored?
Ashy Viper: not really AJ
Bisto Bock: ?!
Mimi Muircastle: yes, but I think it depends on how they are used
AJ Brooks: Wow - well, everyone, our time is up for this week
CathyWyo1 Haystack: i haven't read the article yet ..waiting to get bored then iwll
Olivia Hotshot: for all from Cali - NEWS UPDATE: CSU Student Fee Increase is passed. Expect press release shortly summarizing this and other items of today's meeting.
AJ Brooks: but you will DEFINITLY get a change to hear more from Ashy
Bisto Bock: lol, cathy
Haley Swansong: Tech is a tool not an end to itself
Anetha Gyranaut: i don't think many people are now interested in the computer as such, but what is through it
CathyWyo1 Haystack: darned computer always something tod
Profdan Netizen: How much of an increase, Olivia?
CathyWyo1 Haystack: to do
AJ Brooks: I, unfortunately, have work to do - but you are all welcome to stay here and chat. The amphitheater is not booked for anything tonight
Alan Sandalwood: @Hakey, repeat a 100 times
Margaret Michalski is Offline
Anetha Gyranaut: My apologies for absence for a couple of weeks. I am travelling.
Olivia Hotshot: @Profdan - i think 20% - but it depends on the type of student
Mimi Muircastle: thank you Ashy and AJ!
Joy Rembrandt: Ashy, in addition to technology, you are in a special and unique position to bring different cultures together, maybe even a higher calling
AJ Brooks: thanks everyone, and we'll see you next week
Ashy Viper: Thanks Aj, and thanks for having me
Jarrad Voom: ty ashy an aj
Reverie Magic: Thanks for chairing the meeting AJ
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: off to cook dinner, y'all. I'll run the transcript very soon. Many thanks, Ashy and AJ!
Olivia Hotshot: thanks AJ!
Bisto Bock: thank you all
Profdan Netizen: Quite a jump, Olivia!
Eleonora Porta: ty Aj and Ashy for this evening, see you next time.
Olivia Hotshot: Thank you Ashy!
Anetha Gyranaut: thans
Haley Swansong: ty AJ
AJ Brooks: Ashy, it has been our pleasure, and you and I wil catch up in the next couple of days
Robin Mochi: bye, thanks, Ashy, AJ, and all :)
Alan Sandalwood: Bye Ashy., T
Anetha Gyranaut: thanks
Kali Pizzaro: ok guys brother home form Dubai i better speak to him hehe
Jennette Forager: Great meeting, thanks so much everyone!