Transcript of Feb. 3, 2009 Second Life Roundtable Discussion.
Photos Courtesy of Olivia Hotshot (visit her blog and Flickr photostream)
Location: Montclair State Virtual Campus
Topics: "A Linden Perspective," with special guest Pathfinder Linden
Iggy's Note: Pathfinder and AJ used voice, and we had transcribers nearby to get their remarks for the chat log.
I've combined remarks for clarity and eliminated many yes/no replies unless they clarify a remark. I've also added links to URLs in the transcript (all will open in new tabs or windows). This is a big transcript, and I've not run spell-check yet, in the interests of getting it out in a timely manner. Forgive the boo-boos.
Some Issues Discussed:
Links Mentioned:
AJ Brooks: Hi everyone, and welcome to this weeks SL Education Roundtable.
Mirt Tenk: AJ will type & talk intro
AJ Brooks: These meetings are made possible by the College of Humanities and Social Sciences at Montclair State University. We meet here each week at 2:30pm SLT for an hour. Sometimes we have a topic, sometimes its an open forum.
Philled Graves: welcome Claudia
AJ Brooks: For the first meeting of each month we will be having a special panel or interview. This month our special guest is Pathfinder Linden and our session is called "A Linden Perspective"
AJ Brooks: Next week we will return to our regular roundtable format.
AJ Brooks: A few announcements, before we get started.
AJ Brooks: Both Pathfinder and I will be using VOICE CHAT for this session. We ask that the audience have voice chat enabled but your mics muted. Audience participation will take place via IMs to me directly and, as always, there is text chat.
AJ Brooks: If you are having problems with voice chat there are signs her to assist you or locate Philled Graves or
Margaret Michalski, who are both up front here. Right click on them and IM them your question, they will try to help you the best they can. Great thanks to Philled and Margaret for their work
AJ Brooks: Special thanks to our resident scribe, Ignatius Onomatopoeia, who has been providing the chat transcripts from the most recent meeting meetings.
Philled Graves bows
Margaret Michalski: No Problem!
AJ Brooks: We will have two transcribers today. For those having trouble with voice, and for our text chat transcript, mOOn Jaecies and Mirk Tenik will be transcribing what Pathfinder and I have to say in Voice Chat.
Mirt Tenk: Mirt Tenk
AJ Brooks: We are fortunate to have a GREAT schedule over the next few weeks as well.. A copy of this schedule can be found in the notecard giver along the wall to my left (your right). It looks like a pole at the moment.
Margaret Michalski: AJ Smile for a snapshot
AJ Brooks: The SL Education Roundtable meeting happens each week, but we are looking to develop a community of educators from around the world with a variety of thoughts, needs, and ideas.
AJ Brooks: Please join the SL EDUCATION ROUNDTABLE group. If you have problems finding it in search, just outside this amphitheater you will see several displays. By clicking the appropriate one you can join the group.
AJ Brooks: As the group grows, there will be announcements and such that will be exclusive to the group. I'm also open for ideas of what can bring value to the group.
AJ Brooks: Since many have asked, there is a program running here on the CHSSSouth island called the CHSSSouth Free Land Initiative. Details can be found in the notegiver on the wall to my right (your left) and also the appropriate display located outside the amphitheater.
AJ Brooks: Please wander around the island - after the meeting or come back any time. We're currently up to 28 different educational community members.
AJ Brooks: Aside from this island, and the land initiative, we also have two other educational islands adjoining to the north. There are also numerous learning areas on these adjoining islands, Montclair State CHSS and Montclair State CEHSADP. Wander around and enjoy.
AJ Brooks: Something new - we are now on FACEBOOK. If you are, too, please join our Facebook group http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=44078263753&ref=share
AJ Brooks: If you have Mystitool on, or other similiar tool, please put it to sleep or detach it for now. :-) It tends to lag things.
AJ Brooks: Although many of you know me, by way of introduction, I am AJ Kelton, I'm the Director of Emerging Instructional Technology for the College of Humanities and Social Sciences at Montclair State University and the Coordinator of the Second Life Project for the College of Education and Human Services, also at MSU.. We're located in northern New Jersey, just fourteen miles from midtown Manhattan.
JoannaTrail Blazer claps
JoannaTrail Blazer: Sounds good
Cilian McCullough: yes
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: I speak quietly b/c work w/close folks
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: my background is in online communities in Neuroscience & healthcare in education
Mirt Tenk: you can find details at http://zero.hastypastry.net/pathfinder/
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: my primary focus @ LL since I began 4 years ago is doing whatever I can to help the community of EDU & academics using SL for teaching, leraning & research grow & thrive
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: one thing I do is speak at a lot of conferences & conventions to people asking me to teach them more about affordances of SL as edu platform
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: lot of interest among healthcare right now
Mirt Tenk: last week at Dartmouth Med school to talk about healthcare edu in SL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: you could call it evangelism
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: I also listen a lot, carefully, to what you are doing, saying you need to achieve more success in SL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: requests for policies, procedures, take them back to LL to developers
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: to incorporate into prioritizing dev resources @ LL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: we're trying to figure out what we need to do yesterday & tomorrow
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: I represent your needs @ LL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: I focus a lot on the best ways to support all of you & your success, and your endeavors in SL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: that may mean setting you up w/better tailored resources
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: I'll be focusing on creating more focused KB articles to address edu FAQs
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: I try to facilitate the support you provide each other, since LL could not provide all you do for each other
JoannaTrail Blazer: The Faire was great!
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: last weeks' edu support faire helped connect you w/support resources LL provides but also raised awareness of resources you provide each other
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says: I'm based in Boston, sick w/a cold
Profdan Netizen: AJ, could you turn up your mic?
mOOn Jaecies: AJ says - first part of the meeting is mostly a dialog
mOOn Jaecies: then take questions from the audience
Mirt Tenk: AJ says we are transcribing voice, Margaret & Philled @ front will help w/technical questions
AJ Brooks: How did things first get started with education in SL? Did you look at what was already out there, such as Active Worlds? How did this massive snowball initially get started.
mOOn Jaecies: AJ says - how did things first get started in SL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says I had been using other platforms to create online communities to reach edu goals
Mirt Tenk: before going to LL
JoannaTrail Blazer remembers the Palace
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says had used things like Active Worlds, The Palace for creating online communities for patients & caregivers to connect med professionals & patients where they could share emotional support & edu
Claudia Linden remembers the Palace :D
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says the way edu started in SL was that educators are always the pioneers for any new technology
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says when I started at LL, I joined the community team
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we had a program called campus SL
Mirt Tenk: Robin Harper had started this before he came
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says Robin said there is some activity among educators, asked Pathfinder for his opion about giving educators a temporary plot of land in SL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he thought there was a lot of potential, wanted to focus on building basic scaffolding to help educators succeed
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says second goal was to help educators find each other
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he started the SLED list now has approx 6000 subscribers, largest LL email list
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he encouraged people to introduce selves to each other when they joined the list
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says this started a tsunami wave of educators in SL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says this allowed educators to leverage each others' work
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we had a wiki in 2005, he was trying to put together edu materials on the wiki
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he say Jeremy Kemp had SimTeach online already
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he asked if he could just point to SimTeach b/c it was good
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says the edu community started to build its own support system
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says this edu roundtable is a great edu resource
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says there are alot of campus programs in SL now
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we're trying to figure out if we should still offer plots of land or just help newcomers to find educators in SL who offer plots
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says trick is to step back & let it grow
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says it was not me alone who did this
Claudia Linden waves.
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says Claudia LInden has been focused on these goals
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we also have GEorge Linden now, so three of us focused on how to help edu grow int he future
AJ Brooks: So, clearly there have been changes since you first started, some BIG changes. What has been the biggest change, in your opinion, between when Philip was the one directed day-to-day activities and now with Mark directing them?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we've had an interesting evolution as a company, like the way SL has evolved over time
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he tends toward biology due to BG
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says need to realize that points in evolution can help or hold back
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says Phillip was mastermind of SL concept, developing initial creation, having amazing entrepreneurial approach
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says had a crazy growth time
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we've reached a point where people started depending on all this
Mirt Tenk: needed to go to a new level of support
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says if you've seen slurl.com, can see some of Phillip's work on improving the map
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we needed a CEO who had led companies through startup to service provider
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says if SL goes down, it's not just entertainment which is interrupted, can now be a class or conference
Zana Kohime: yes
Zotarah Shepherd: I do
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says been good to see focus on adding innovative features but also focus on stability of environment
Grinn Pidgeon: yes
Philled Graves: oh eya!
JoannaTrail Blazer: Yes, don't hold an event on wednesdays
[groans and bad memories all around]
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says Black Wednesday's used to happen
JoannaTrail Blazer: Hooray!
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we don't have these any more
Bella Yan: somehow always a day for a group orientation...lol
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we're focused on reducing downtime, increasing stability, increasing scalability
JoannaTrail Blazer: (Hooray at not having black Wednesdays anymore.)
AJ Brooks: How close are we to a mobile SL. Kids today are using mobile phones as their tool of choice? Are there any plans or discussions about this? If so, what can you tell us, if not - why not?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says in terms of Phillip & Mark, this is the natural progression for LL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we think a lot about mobile SL & wonder what it would look like
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says people have looked at how to provide a mini-SL experience on the phone
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says is that what you really want?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says I don't think of having a tiny screen that makes me think of laparoscopic surgery
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he'd love to see a way of having different aspects of SL available on the phone
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says things that might be good features would be to make a phone call into SL
Esme Qunhua: Yes! I want access to IM and Inventory from cell phone
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says have a different connection to SL that is meaningful from cell phone interface
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says imagine if business owners could conduct transactions & monitor sales in SL
JoannaTrail Blazer: I'd like to be able to ban troublemakers from my phone
Mirt Tenk: AJ says or if students could listen to an event
Profdan Netizen: Definitely, AJ. Students will want access in a variety of ways.
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says there are different interfaces available now
Gwenette Writer: Chatbridge??
Olivia Hotshot: Sleek
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says have you seen the text-only viewer?
Gwenette Writer: yes good tool
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says chatbridge is a good example
Eliasdehart Sixpence: gnomiverse
Alanah Chrome: Or if we all could talk over the phones instead of using the voice chat system here ... be on line on computer but talking over a phone?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says finds fascinating the integration of things in a virtual space w/the rest of the physical world
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says enough on that topic
AJ Brooks: There is a rumor going around that Premium Accounts will get 100 groups - what can you tell us about that?
Gwenette Writer: hahahah
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says ha ha
Biancaluce Robbiani: woot
Gwenette Writer: i want a tiger
JoannaTrail Blazer: hehehe
Profdan Netizen: Also, text chats can be a back up if a student has a problem with graphics, too much lag.
Zana Kohime: I only wish.
Philled Graves: wher's my pony
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Pony? I want a pony-car
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says it's true we're trying to offer more groups but it's a big challenge
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says group limits is a dev issue which affects many aspects of SL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says ongoing internal discussion about how to address this
Garfield Akina: yes of course .
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says people are using groups in ways LL did not anticipate
Mirt Tenk: AJ mentions differentiating between comm & landowning groups
Gwenette Writer: geme
Garfield Akina: trying to find something really interesting for them .
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says this is more indepth internal discussion, asking questions RE how people are using groups
Philled Graves: how many of us have alts to keep groups straight
Gwenette Writer: well not really 50/50
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says people have alts to have more groups
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says your feedback & ideas are vital
AJ Brooks: Can you explain why we're currently restricted to 25 groups?
Mirt Tenk: I actually have a survey from Jimmy Linden RE premium accts which includes questions RE groups
mOOn Jaecies: AJ asks - Can you give a reasoning why there is a limit to 25 groups
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says I had a hard time understanding when the developers explained to me
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says it relates to level of the packets
JoannaTrail Blazer: We used to have less
Claudia Linden: interdependencies
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says it's a difficult to modify parameter
AJ Brooks: I'm sure you've followed the recent animated conversation on the SLED list about ones group affiliations and the mix of professional versus personal persona in SL. What are you thoughts on that?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says making a change would affect many aspects of SL
Ignatius Onomatopoeia hides under a rock
Sarah Marcus: haha iggy
Philled Graves: was a great dialog
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we're still figuring this out
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says people need to decide on their own comfort level
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says part of challenge of SL gives us the potential to create more malleable identies than we could formerly
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we can explore both professional & personal life facets
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says there's often a blend of professional & personal
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says when I'm talking to educators not familiar w/SL that in this environment you see a blend of the real & the surreal
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says some educators are put off by this
Profdan Netizen: dreamworld
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we need to think of different flexibilities RE how we express ourselves
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says it's often a dreamworld but it's a good thing, exploring new possibilities
JoannaTrail Blazer smiles
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we're all figuring this out as a species
Ignatius Onomatopoeia good point...as I tell students, we have less privacy online but can control how much we disclose
sunflower Aichi: i've a question, in the friends list i cant group my contacts, so i forgot all the time where i meet an avatar, can Linden lab create a solution?? to group the contacts??
Mirt Tenk wants to know the species name :)
Alanah Chrome: sluman?
AJ Brooks: The Education sector is not really a profit sector for LL - given discounted sims and monthly maintenance, plus all the free student accounts that are brought in the will probably never be turned to Premium and possible only used for a short time (putting a strain on the databases by having so many accounts), what is the incentive for LL to be involved with higher ed and what is the companies commitment to us?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says it's b/c EDU folks rock
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says edu people push boundaries in how you use SL to teach & help students become successful
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says what you do in SL has many ripple effects
Olivia Hotshot is Offline
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says it's about how many transformative ideas you release into the env
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says allowing them to express selves in ways they never could before
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says valuable is incalculable
Mirt Tenk: caused by edu
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says it's a complex weave of network effects
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says the fact that there are three Lindens focused on edu shows LL is committed to edu support
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says there's a lot of overlap btwn edu needs & enterprise needs
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says you'll see that we will include new features that edu has requested
AJ Brooks: Where do you see virtual worlds going from here?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he reads science fiction a lot
Pathfinder Linden: vernor vinge
Pathfinder Linden: rainbows end
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says favorite author is Vernor Vinge
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says likes recent book Rainbow's End
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says describes a world w/virtual representations of people, space & place exist simultaneously w/the physical
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says you have complete merging of physical & virtual
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says people wear contact lenses which provide augmented reality display everywhere as an overlay
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we have a history of evolving toward that constantly
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we bring our tools closer to sense of self
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder points out it is common to have people sitting near & talking to someone not present
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we don't consider those as virtual conversations but they are
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says phonecall is interaction w/data stream, not a person
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we don't say we had a virtual conversation, we say we talked to them
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says same kinds of things will happen w/evolution of virtual worlds
Ignatius Onomatopoeia: Bruce Sterling said in the intro to the Mirrorshades anthology that ours is the first era that seems like SF.
Profdan Netizen: digital borgs
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says talked to AJ, may have been physical, virtual, or a blend
AJ Brooks: As we grow the SL Education Roundtable group, we come upon more benefits of membership. One of those benefits was that we gave group members the opportunity to send in questions. Before we open things up to the audience, here are a few I received.
Profdan Netizen: resistance is futile
JoannaTrail Blazer: hehehe
AJ Brooks: What is the status report on allowing interage access to Main Grid secured locations (children accompanied by parents or teachers to see educational venues)
AJ Brooks: # Is it theoretically possible to have main grid islands set so certain avatars cannot get out or in, the same way as currently done on the Teen Grid?
Profdan Netizen: Or mixed age college courses.
AJ Brooks: What can be done to show support for a creative solution to sharing the assets off the main grid with the teen grid?
AJ Brooks: Those in Europe are experiencing terrible problems getting students signed up onto the Teen Grid. What is the status of this and how is it being addressed?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says not surprised at teen grid questions
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says Phillip talked about it on Metanomics so the word is out
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he was talking about it theoretically
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says people misinterpreted as an imminent change
Esme Qunhua: Now someone will say did you hear that Pathfinder said that Philip said that hte teen grid is merging with main.
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says this is a process w/complex issues, some legal, some procedural, some technical
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says trying to figure best way from edu perspective how you can work w/teens & adults together safely
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says there are solutions to the Eur registration issues
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says there are ways around these issues, schoolaborate
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we're working on a strategy to reduce or eliminate needs for workarounds
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says no timetable available but we are discussing it and are concerned w/those experiencing these problems
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we have actual projects, not just discussions
Garfield Akina: in the TIT we're doing great things through "blind" people using SL to interact with rl people ..
AJ Brooks: how close are we to having a system for exchanging, even viewing, documents in-world?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says when we figure out how to tactically execute, we'll go public w/details
Mirt Tenk: AJ mentions competitors like OpenSim & Project Wonderland which have more of this functionality
Profdan Netizen: Please, please, please!
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says spent last quarter focusing on strategy & prioritization
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he & Claudia reviewed spreadsheets of features, categorizing & prioritizing
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says realize doc sharing is high priority
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says realize doc sharing is something in high demand & need
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says now trying to determine resource allocation
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says other tools like Google docs are used more & more alongside of SL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says there are interim solutions, still trying to figure how to provide solutions like document sharing to SL users
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says Q4 2008 was completely focused on prioritizing
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says Mark has helped LL to come up w/good ideas & also implement them w/in a timeframe
AJ Brooks: Is there any effort to use media stream format other than QuickTime?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he doesn't know
AJ Brooks: I would like to know if they are looking at a way to create groups in your friends list.
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he will find out
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says this is the feature that everyone uses in other social networking apps
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says doesn't know priority of this
Zotarah Shepherd: I put my calling cards in group folders and sub folders.
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says they know internally this is needed
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says this is on the same level as being able to tell others are typing in IM
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says they know this helps conversation flow
Philled Graves: and now folks try and turn it off ;-)
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says there are many things we're trying to figure out, not to do something different but make the interface more intuitive
AJ Brooks: Is it possible to have faires dedicated too various areas of education such as health, behavior sciences, literature etc.
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says make the user experience more intuitive, more standardized to facilitate learning
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he hopes so!
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says would love to do one on health
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says recent edu support faire was just first step
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says we'll get there
Claudia Linden: I'm looking forward to another Best Practices in Edu conference...that was my all time fave.
Zana Kohime: Mine as well Claudia.
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says VW Best practices in edu conference coming up, at the faire, people were talking about other conferences
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says Claudia & he are looking forward to the BP conf
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says again, a combination of what LL can provide and what educators can bring
AJ Brooks: Are there any plans to make it possible to edit and correct text for a short while after it is sent...you can do this for half an hour of so in Skype...it makes a REAL difference teaching languages.
Philled Graves: oh dear god yes!
Margaret Michalski: That would be great!
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says he doesn't know
Ignatius Onomatopoeia spell check in chat....better transcripts :)
Garfield Akina: yes that would be great !
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says not familiar w/this feature in Skype
Bracken Homewood: for about half an hour after you send text you can correct and edit it
Garfield Akina: to edit and correct or delete if necessary .
AJ Brooks: Is knowing people in SL the same as RL? Can you tell someone I know Aj or Pathfinder?
Bracken Homewood: it is a REAL BOON teaching languages]
Oronoque Westland: don't know about SKYPE, but you can do that in Blackboard discussion boards
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says that comes back to the phone example
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says it's possible to know someone in this environment
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says the tools only grow in terms of more emotional bandwidth
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says I.E., you can hear me sniffling (he's very touched about the topic)
Mirt Tenk was joking
Alanah Chrome: lol Mirt
Philled Graves: like the voice lip sync beta?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says as we have more technologies to increase emotional bandwith they will try to improve gestures
Oronoque Westland: you can puff up your feathers
mOOn Jaecies: An instructor just mentioned that she used SL in an online course because students were requesting a sense of realness!
Mirt Tenk thinks RL body language is subconscious whereas SL body language is deliberate
AJ Brooks: what kind of plans has LL to advertising to media the use of Second Life as a Learning Environment in Europe
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says there is a lot of potential to map RL body language to SL bodylanguage
Bracken Homewood: but when you do these things in RL it is possible to glance round quickly and SEE it...in SL lagg stops you seeing what is all around quickly
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says they have an office in UK, presence in Europe
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says Jean Linden focuses on German market, done lots of work w/German edu
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says stats around usage of SL in UK alone is over 90%
AJ Brooks: Was the Faire viewed as a success by LL
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says the faire was a success based on feedback
Bracken Homewood: 90% of what?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says 90% of universities in UK use SL, per Eduserve
Profdan Netizen: remarkable
Zana Kohime: It was great.
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says thinks the faire was great
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says will be pulling stats RE visitation by country, time
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says interested in quantitative & qualitative data
Garfield Akina: per Eduserve ?? 90 % I didn't know that I'm in UK ! is my university an antique ?
Pathfinder Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Education_Support_Faire
Philled Graves: posting your stats to it?
Tuxedo Ninetails: Could Pathfinder discuss the spell check question with LL development people and let us know what they say?
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says wiki will exist in perpetuity (!)
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says will post info RE visitor demographics
mOOn Jaecies: AJ says the Faire booths are still there, so you can go and visit what you missed.
Mirt Tenk: Pathfinder says also evaluating network effects, who met whom & is now planning to collaborate?
mOOn Jaecies: Pathfinder says the booths will be taken down on Wednesday
Philled Graves: woot!
Oronoque Westland: hooray!
Mirt Tenk: AJ says our booth was staffed most of the time, increased roundtable group membership by 50%
Garfield Akina: why school projects have to be on the Main Grid at all...what is wrong with having them on independent Grids tiny and out of lag ...restricted to the colleges and schools involved...and if necessary partner institutions ??
Pipsqueak Fiddlesticks: Community Colleges in SL gained 25 members from the Faire!
Esme Qunhua claps
Gwenette Writer: u 2 b kewwwwwl
[applause and thanks all around]
Mirt Tenk: in 1.5 hours, ISTE is having their first speaker series which will be broadcast here
Gwenette Writer: I just wandered finally today have been on deadline is wonderful resource:)
Philled Graves: time again please?
Mirt Tenk: that would be 5 PM SLT
Oronoque Westland: 5:00 PM - 6:00 PM, SL in Higher Education Panel Discussion with A J Brooks, Intellagirl
Tully and GrandmasterFoo Woodget. at the ISTE Eduverse Auditorium. http://slurl.com/secondlife/ISTE%20Island/89/80/30
Mirt Tenk: Sarah Robbins (SL: Intellagirl Tully), Director of Emerging Technologies, Kelley Executive Partners, Kelley School of Business, Indiana University
AJ Kelton (SL: AJ Brooks), Director of Emerging Instructional Technology, College of Humanities and Social Sciences, Montclair State University
Brock R. Dubbels (SL: GrandmasterFoo Woodget), Media Specialist and Site Manager for the Minneapolis Public Schools, PhD Candidate, University of Minnesota
mOOn Jaecies: See AJ for the SLURL
Mirt Tenk: In our first show, Host Kevin Jarrett (SL KJ Hax), leads an hour-long discussion with Sarah, AJ, and Brock, reflecting on their experiences working in Second Life and leading Second Life initiatives for their universities. In the first segment, "The Golden Age of Education in Second Life," our guests will reflect on their paths through the metaverse, share lessons learned, and offer advice for institutions interested in establishing or growing their inworld presence. In the second segment, "A Look Ahead," they will describe how those experiences have shaped their plans for the future.
Margaret Michalski: Thank you!
[many more thanks all around]
Oronoque Westland: there were 65 of us on the SIM
millay Freschi: Thanks Mirt, for keeping notes :)
Zotarah Shepherd: Great information. Thank you AJ and Pathfinder